Memorize the Quran
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I memorized the last thirtieth when I was a teen, with my eye on becoming Hafiz (memorizing the whole book). I’m not religious anymore so the goal is not relevant. It’s an incredible tradition—millions of people around the world memorizing 6200 verses of a book. But the tradition of rote memorization also supports the dogmatic nature of religion generally and Islam in particular. It’s heresy to get a vowel wrong and “innovation in religion” is frowned upon. To become Hafiz it doesn’t matter whether or not you understand the religious tradition or can criticize it, it is enough to be capable of beautiful and accurate recitation. This is not the climate where reason flourishes, even given Islam’s venerable history of promoting intellectual pursuits. I might pick this goal up again one day when I decide to a) learn Arabic, b) learn about Middle Eastern culture, or c) grow my memory muscles.

Some random thoughts from Saafir



Comments:

I’m not sure I follow you, where does it say in Islam that memorization is given precedence over understanding? What we do know is that the sahabah (campanions) used to read 10 versus, understand them and practise them before moving on. In the Quran God tells us to ponder over the verses, and to not be like those who carry knowledge on their backs and not practise what is ordained etc.

Your critisim is somewhat valid if you are looking at how many ignorant people practise their life, but that is def. not what Islam propogates but rather the effects of ignorance and/or culture. The true measure is referring matters back to the sources of Islam (Quran and authentic hadith etc.)

I don't know that the Quran...

or Hadith specifically emphasizes memorization over understanding. But my criticism has a wider mark than the tradition of memorizing the Qur’an. The source of authority in religions such as Islam is the unassailable truth captured in a holy book. You can memorize it, discuss it, even interpret it, but you cannot criticize it for truth or moral worth because it is the “word of God.”

So whatever beauty and goodness I found within the pages of the Quran was marred by the grave moral shortcomings and lapses of truth I saw in the book. When I read it, I saw women treated as second-class citizens who must bend to the will of men, a God who viciously punishes people for their theological beliefs, and hopelessly parochial attitudes toward politics and justice. This would be more palatable if I had recourse to reason and criticism, but the Quran repeatedly stresses that questioning the word is bad, and rejecting the word is even worse. The believer finds himself in an uncomfortable all-or-nothing situation, pitting his reason and sense of morality against the universally true word of God.

When I figured this out I decided to drop the dogmatic attitude and try looking at the writings of Islam from a purely historical perspective. The intellectual and moral frustrations I had as a curious teen evaporated. I haven’t looked back.

Sorry if this is too long or too strident. I’m sure I could make my ideas more clear if I needed to. Thanks for posing your question 43Noob

Think about it...

Do you think the word of God was created. No it was not. It is Allah as he is, as he hears, as he speaks, as he punishes, as he forgives… These are all attributes of Allah and he did not inherit these attributes with the creation of the heaven and the earth. Also, Allah speaks of his mercy in Qu’ran more than of his wrath. Thirdly, do not look at Islam and the condition of Allah’s mercy as so rigid and overbearly suppressive as Allah says in Qur’an: Verily those who believe (in Allah and the prophet) and the Jews and the Christians and the Sabians who believe in Allah and the Last Day and act righteously for them is a reward with thier Lord and no fear shall be upon them and nor shall they grieve.

The only thing you shouldn’t do is associate partners with Allah. Anything else, Allah will pardon if you ask him

it was a mistake

I do not cheer this comment. I pity Safir on his crooked thoughts. I pity him because Allah gave him a chance and he missed it and on top of that he has wronged gravely. Allah is Ghafoor ur Rahim.

ILoveAhmed feels pretty good...

You didn’t memorise it, so you should mark this “gave up” not “I have done this”.


 

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