learn to lindy hop (read all 6 entries…)
short lesson 2 years ago

Took a short lindy hop lesson before a swing dance last night. For my own reference (and possibly others’ benefit, though it is very difficult to describe dancing) I will write what I learned here. As I am most familiar with east coast swing, my comparisons are to that. Lindy hop is a spot dance and similar to east coast swing. However, its basic “swing out” move uses 8 counts rather than 6 counts.

Start from open position.

The count is as follows:
1, 2, 3&4, 5, 6, 7&8

From the leader’s perspective:

1 – Left foot rock step (back step)
2 – change weight to right foot
3&4 – left foot step toward each other into closed position, doing a triple step with the 3&4. While attaching to follower, begin clockwise spin. On 4 should be facing opposite direction from start, in closed position, with weight on left foot.
5 – right foot step forward and to the left to pass follower. Continue spin with follower, especially on right foot plant. Between 5 and 6 begin releasing follower back to open position.
6 – left foot plant and finish spin, should now be facing original direction. Follower released and beginning to move away.
7&8 – right foot begins triple step to the rear. At end of 8 should be back to original open position and ready to begin rock step at count 1 again.

A variation on this basic figure is to remain in closed position for all 8 counts, with the follower ending up 90 degrees further around the circle than when going back to open position. This sets up to lead a tuck turn for the follower, which is very similar to the tuck turn in east coast swing.

What I don’t yet understand is that it seems that some figures are 8 counts and some are 6, and I don’t know how or if that is communicated.



Comments:

About 6 counts and 8 counts.

I think of it like this.
Everything is a 6 count but only if the lead doesn’t lead on 5.

Or you can say that an 8 count always has a lead on 5. A 6 count has a lead on 1 or 3.

Take the swingout for example:
Rock (1) – step (2), tripple (3) step (4), (lead) walk (5), walk (6), tripple (7) step (8)

If I don’t lead on 5 I have to lead on 3 if we wan’t to switch places.
Rock (1) – step (2), (lead) tripple (3) step (4), tripple (5) step (6).

Hope this helps :)

wow

This seems counterintuitive but after trying out your examples a few times I think I’m seeing how it works. Somehow I was expecting that both dancers would know by a lead at the start of the figure whether it would be 6 counts or 8 counts. But what you’ve described is really not that way. The follow may not know until count 3 or later how many counts are actually in the figure. It also seems like whether it’s 6 or 8 counts is not as important as I imagined.

Thanks for helping me get my head around it.

It's a lead dance

The follow can’t possibly know what’s coming if they don’t know their partner and can read their bodylanguage.

I as a lead am the only one who knows if the next step is an 8 or a six. I usually test my follows by doing a sixcount step in place just to see if they actually follow. Most often than not they actually follow me after that step :)

The follow will know if it’s a circle or a swingout on how the lead places his hand on the follows back. If it’s centered it’s a swingout if it’s more to the follows left backside it’s a circle since then he needs to hold the follow in for the circle.

Texas tommy (8 count):
Rock (1) – step (2), tripple (3) step (4) (place follows right hand behind her back), (lead – take it with your right) walk (5) (and turn), walk (6), tripple (7) step (8)

Texas tommy (6 count):
Rock (1) – step (2), tripple (3) (place follows right hand behind her back) step (4) (lead – take it with your right), tripple (and turn) (5) step (6)

It’s hard to describe how it’s done really. I suggest you take another class and it’ll clear up.


 

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