I really want a harley but am having trouble justifying the price. I can buy a honda or a kawi or even a yamaha but I want a Harley.
If there is any reason I could pick a harley over the others Please tell me.
If you really want something it is worth it just to wait. Do you really think you will be happy in the long run if you do not get what your heart desires?
The biggest thing I could see in this is, how much are you into the brand myth of Harley Davidson, and how much are you into bikes for themselves? The reason I say this is that Sonny Barger (the president of the Oakland Hell’s Angels and de facto leader of the HAs worldwide) basically panned Harley in his autobiography, saying that if the Angels hadn’t become so enmeshed with the HD brand, he’d be riding a Kawasaki instead – he reckons that in terms of value for money, mod cons and reliability, the Jap bikes have the edge.
That said, if you ride a Harley, you fit right in if you hang with the Harley crowd, and anything else just won’t do.
So, essentially, is it more the social thing of being a Harley biker that appeals, or is it a practical thing? That’s not to discount the brand myth – I spend a lot of time over at http://headrush.blogspot.com, which is all about giving users (customers, people you’re working for) the idea that because they use your product, they kick ass. That’s a powerful thing, and worth a lot to a lot of people.
The real reason I want a harley is because of:
1. it is a very popular bike and I assume (maybe incorrectly) that the reason is that is a good bike. I really want quality and something I will be satisfied with 5 – 10 years from now. Basically I want a good bike. Dependable and does not have high maintenance.
2. I found one that I kinda liked. I am not totaly sold on HD bikes but I also found a honda that was pretty cool.
3. I really do not have a good reason to buy one just lack of knowledge. Thus why I am asking around.
Thanks
Well, they are a hell of a lot better than they used to be. According to Barger the old hardtails used to shake themselves to pieces every so often, and every time he got on, it was after a quick 10-minute nut & bolt tightening session. They’re a lot smoother now – better engine mounts and proper rear suspension. They’re still not much cop for cornering, and if you have the opportunity to get on either a supermoto & do a sliding, foot-out, banked right over turn, or a sports bike (even a CB500 will let you do this) and you get your knee slider down as you take a bend on a track, you’ll see the value in cornering ability.
The popularity is largely because of a combination of patriotism (it’s the only US bike brand to survive intact for over 100 years, although Indian is making a comeback and there’s a relatively new player, Victory, who make viciously torquey Harley-lookalikes that will rip shoulders from sockets) and the brand myth they’ve built up aided by the Hell’s Angels and the many films featuring them in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s. They’re kind of like Budweiser in that respect – they’re ingrained in American culture. No-one will ever laugh at you for riding a Harley, but there’s a lot you can do with bikes that only the suicidal would attempt on a Harley waves to Evel Knievel :-)
I just went over to the Harley Davidson UK website (as I’m in the UK), to see if there was a Harley I would ride. There is!! It’s the new black powder-coated version of the V-rod, which has its footpegs positioned where bikes ought to have them, i.e. mid, not forward. It’s beautiful. It’s just under 1200cc, and goes like a rocket. I’d love one. Trouble is, it’s £20,000 on the road. Its nearest competitor is BMW, who make the R1200GS. That’s just under 1200CC, same level of performance and comfort, a fair bit lighter, and £8,715.00 on the road. No contest I’m afraid. The cheaper Harleys just don’t appeal at all.
I tried! Honestly – I tried to like them, but I just can’t… :-(