Understand that I know nothing
Wisdom

I feel that only when you realise that you know absolutely nothing of any true importance, can you start understanding what really matters in this existence. Ya ya sure there are people who are very knowledgeable about this physical world, but what importance does that have next to the world of conciousness? I feel we are so dug into this physical world and trying to find our happiness here, that we completely ignore the world of thought and it’s greater potential for happiness.

We’ve become so distracted by physical happiness and being content with only that world, that we don’t even take the world of feelings or reflection seriously. If anyone wants to talk about this, I’m willing.



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balance

i know you didnt ask me but…. :)

i think balance is most important
ive studyed some buddhism and had alot of time to get to know my inner self
but theres no point learning all these wonderfull things if you cant comunicte them on an everday level and make use of them

everyone needs light relief and sometimes the best thing you can do is to forget everything and just have fun
:)

balance is important

I agree with you that sometimes we all need some light relief once in a while (because that’s how we can keep a hopefull view of the futur, and how we could help others).

But I’m a little afraid about totally forgetting all this stuff for one night once in a while, because the last time I did that(boosing), I totally got off track with my life and that caused me a lot of regret. I’ll try not concentrating on it for a breatheronce in a while, but I don’t think I want to ever forget, not even for a second.

totally agree

:)

i get that kind of fear that if
for instance,
i stop meditating and listening to my body that i’ll forget how to?
or that it’ll be such a struggle to get back to feeling the same intuition

i’ve no answer to that but its something i do worry about

right on

That’s exactly it, I’m afraid I’ll never get that same feeling back again. That’s a scary thought.

What kind of meditation do you practice?

An Answer...

Thank you Melissa for asking me that question. It made me think and here’s what I’m feeling:
You’re right about a balance. I guess what I was wishing for was some other kind of existence, say a none physical existence. That way I wouldn’t have to worry about the physical world.

(and this is where what you said got me thinking…) But I AM in this physical world, so I have to be a part of it, and I will have to respect its importance in mine and others lives.

I kind of see it like: I am using this physical body as a vehicle for carrying my mind to the places it needs to go, to learn what it needs to learn. Does that make sense?
Thank you for helping me understand that. Could I ask what you think of this stuff?

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Strait to the Point (Long post sorry)

Good question. I think it’s a split, because I can absolutely tell you I’m frustrated with the world we are forced to live in, it’s social/economical structure. But I’ve also become intrigued by the spiritual/mental world because I’m beggining to feel like there’s an enormous “untapped” potential of knowledge and power in thought.

For example, say someone says something offensive to you. Regularly people would take offense to the comment. But why? I think the reason someone becomes offended by a comment is because they chose to be offended. right?

Have you ever had a conversation with someone or even just been with someone, and felt like, completely whole? I’m trying to explain this feeling I get: usually when you’re connecting with another person on a deep level. It’s like a warm feeling all around you, and you feel so safe, and…like…”this is the feeling I’ve been looking for. And if I could keep this feeling with me, I’d be the complete and happy forever.”

I think that feeling is, basically, the reason for living in this world. It’s like the ultimate goal, and once you reach that feeling, you’re in heaven, or paradise, whatever you call it. That’s what I’m reaching out for.

But then I can’t keep that feeling forvery long, because after the conversation with whoever, it’s back to reality, back to this world, and then once again I feel, well, alone, like I’m looking for that feeling again.

Does this make any sense?

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The Warmth..

it’s weird how we connected so fast,
(in a good way!)
i’ve been reading your entries(blogs) their all beautiful, but i chose to respond to this particular blog because it’s there… the warm feeling. & your entry about love, and how you’ve been looking for someone who you need not to say a word, because it’s there.. the contentment it’s as if you’re so connected that you are really happy just being beside them staring out… that and so many others things i’ve been looking for i found with/in you. i’m sorry i don’t mean to scare you, i hope you know what I mean.. in this case randomness and fate took each other by the hand.
i hope your day is going well, i’m sure it is, you’re playing baseball!

sorry for interrupting your comments/conversation with Melissa

can’t wait to talk to you.

Victoria

werrrd, brotha.

wow, chris. i was thinking the same thing…except my thoughts were even more depressing.
JUST how do we accept everything? And why is it that all of us need to believe in something? Usually, it’s like science…or religion…and it keeps us occupied- but how do we know it’s the absolute truth?
Why don’t we look for something more?

...i really could go on about this.

So right viva

Viva this is exactly what me and me buddy talked about until 5am in a car.

1. I think i understand why you’re thoughts depress you, because my thoughts about this depress me too:

We see all this crap going on in the world, and you don’t want to accept it has to be this way right? I think: How are we not supposed to lose hope for this world once we realize how horribly screwed up it is. How is one freakin person going to change anything? I certainly don’t feel like I can make a big impact on this world. I get so depressed about how I’m can’t do anything to change the world.
BUT, my buddy and I think that: knowing what we now know (about how screwed up and far from that perfect world we’re looking for), what’s the point of living if it’s not to somehow reach for that beautiful world? There’s is no other reason.

So, as silly as it may seem, him and I made a pact to always reach out for that world and work ourselves and others towards that world. It’s the only way we could be happy living: by having hope. As hopeless as this cause is, it’s why I’m alive. And we know we may not see a change happen in our lifetime, perhaps never. But just maybe, just maybe there will be a movement that starts. We’re trying to spread these words around. And we want others to help if they believe in this too.

I don’t know if what I’m saying or what I’m working towards is the absolute truth, but that feeling of pure truthfullness I get when talking about this tells me this is what I’m looking for in my life.

2. As for your religion/science question: It almost seems like peole take shelter behind a religion (and don’t listen to anything else) because they are afraid of feeling like there’s no hope for this world. they would feel so alone.
Exactly like you said, it keeps them “occupied” or distracted from the hopeless world. Although I’m sure there are many religious people who would completely understand what I’m saying and at least a few would agree. There’s no way anyone knows for sure what’s absolutely real, but I beleive what is real or at least the reallest thing I think i’ve ever felt is the feeling of warmth. And that’s what I beleive in, an that’s what I’m after.

I’m sorry I talked so much there, What do you think of that?

It makes complete sense…you didn’t comment on the ‘science’ aspect though. Are we learning the right stuff? I mean…I want to believe it…scratch that…I DO believe it…but science is underneath it all..just one big theory. So…what if the one who hypothesized the theory (ie. wrote it down on a piece of paper..to be passed on, believed in for generations) was wrong? Drawing parallels (sort of)- the bible. a book- written by people of what they percieved to be absolute truth-that was passed on.
Math tells us that mistakes happen along the way- that’s probability. It’s bound to happen, right?
So, what if the fundamentals of science were wrong? We’re going back to fix the energy crap ie. string theory and what not…really we just try to make explanations for what’s convenient for us. Everything is usually all about convenience. And for most (me including)everything is about themselves.

Ramblings

I sporadically allow myself to follow this train of thought.. of the meaning of life.
No matter what I uncover during my sessions, it is lost by the next day, even that same day! I think I should write my thoughts down and that would help, but I never do write things down, something always holds me back. Perhaps I am afraid to try it? Afraid of what I will uncover if i research this properly? But it feels so right when I try it, so i’m going to try and document my thoughts next time I “meditate”. I’ll let you know how it goes, if I am still here – to be honest, I don’t know if I will still be here after an hour… we shall see.

On a side note, which incidentally was what pushed me to post, I have saved up £1,000 since I was very young, through perhaps dubious methods – receive allowance for going out, save that in bank and then ask for money to go out.. it actually makes me feel ashamed right now. Anyway, I wonder if I should keep this money for a rainy day, as I have so far, or should I spend it now? Perhaps this compulsion to save money is holding me back from enjoying life? If I spend this symbolic money, will I free myself from my depression and become a better person?
... Or is becoming a better person a useless ideal? How do I know whether or not I will gain from any action? What constitutes an unwasted action?

I have touched on way too many topics here, and written way too much, having looked at the average size of posts here [Edit: actually, I have not ;)], but I hope you read it and come back to me with any comments :)

Ramblings are good

I understand how sometimes the next day, you lose that feeling you had during the conversation, because that always happens to me. And I’ve always attempted to write it down while I’m in the conversation or right after otherwise you lose the feeling and , well what’s the point of right it down when you’re not feeling it at that moment. I’ll make a pact with you if you want: next time we’re totally in that feeling, right away after that conversation, we HAVE to pick up a pen or pencil and write down everything we’re feeling. ok?

Also, I think in a sense, your parents will be disappointed that you didn’t spend the money on what you said you were going to (lied), but they’ll also feel really good knowing their child is thinking about the future and saving up.
If you ask me, I’d feel bad keeping the money saved up without them knowing it, and I’d also feel bad going and spending this money on myself knowing I lied. But I wouldn’t feel bad telling them that i’ve been saving all that money through kind of a lie, and then doing what i want with the money, as long as they aren’t totally against it. Because i know they’d be happy you demonstrated good money management(which will make them feel safer about your future) but I don’t know if they’d be angry about the lying thing. All parents are different.

I also think that becoming a better person is kind of an abused expression. Because nowadays, becoming a better person, is basically saying, I want to be more like the ideal person that everybody is trying to be. But what may be Better to one person maynot be better to another,you know? So this is what i think: There’s two a person. There’s the person you are (the person that everyone else sees you as, the way you act around everyone else) and there’s the person yo want to be (who has all the virtues and gifts and happiness that you want to have). And a lot of life is trying to go from the first person, to the second. And once you reach the second, life will just be… good…happy. You will be confertable with yourself. And you’ll be happy deep down inside (because you know yourself) , no matter what’s going on, on the outside (ex: bad relationships, family death, school…).

I don’t know how any action will affect any one person, but i do know that if you feel that that action (and it’s consequences) have the potential to affect you, then you will gain something from it. Why else would you be worried about the results of your actions? An unwaisted action seems like something you don’t learn anything from doing. I think it was worth doing as long as it affects you ex:makes you feel happy, regret, remorse, anger, sadness… as long as it affects you.

I do want to point out that i have no idea if what i said is right or not, but it does feel right to me when i say it. I hope that helps. What do you think of it?

And thanks for joining me in my goal.

I am unsure if you are still 'doing' this...

But I am intrigued by your entries and was wondering if I could add my ramblings along with yours.
(By the way, I accidently started to put that in a tag, before I read what a tag was…how do I delete those?)
I have seriously been inspired by these though trains as I read them, and I am not entirely sure where to begin my own… so many correspond with thoughts that float around me. But, I will abstain until I know this will continue.
Untill then.

I'd Love to hear your thoughts

wow it’s been a while since i’ve been on 43things. I got an email with your comment attached. I’m don’t know how tags works either so can’t help you there. sorry. As for your train of thought, start anywhere you like and we’ll see what kind of conversations happen. seeya.

Great! So here we go...

Due to a rather bizarre choice I was faced with, I got to thinking. About what I do and do not know (or do and do not want to know) about myself. I began to question my own nature. Even it’s existance. The support for the vague choice I did make (which was a no response to a rather strange and somewhat disconcerting question) was that it was not in my nature to act in the manner that was being asked of me. The counter argument was that I would never know until I actually tried and THEN evaluated the way I felt afterwards (it was worded like that, but that was the gist…). The fact that in a philosophical discussion about the notion of ‘self’ I had in fact used a similar argument to support my point that the ‘self’ cannot properly be defined until it has exusted its limits, thus itself, and then the possesor (who would essentially no longer exist) could in theory evaluate ALL circumstances and come up with said definition. Following? So in fact I had really put forth a semi-existentialist theory that the ‘self’ cannot be defined (as it would be when we are no longer existant and , without considering an afterlife, we would then no longer be in possesion of rational thought) and is consequentially redefined in every new moment with every new action. And yet here I am using ‘my nature’ as an excuse to skip out of a, so defined by me, ‘dubvious’ act. It seems the more I think about it, the less I understand. You see, it all relates back to your first entry, too. The act consisted of purely phisical elements. And so I seem to be turning myself in knots trying to figure out exactly what I am and what I want. Even after all this, I am no closer to an answer. I just see it differnt ways, with no resolution in sight.
Any thoughts?


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