homeschool my children
Who Ownes Our Kids

We homeschool 3 girls. I cant stand the thought of warehousing my children.

These are some of the reason we chose to homeschool just my thoughts on it.

Socially they get beat down. The curriculum for most subjects is watered down and not accurate.

They have to be retaught most things in college.

Children dont learn values and integrity, they learn either how to fear or rebel.

We have been tought the only way to school our kids is by the Government.

The school systems in America is failing because, it was never meant to warehouse all these children.

It was set up that children starts school at 7 and only schools for 3 to 4 hours a day.

Now it starts at 5 and is 6 to 8 hours, and we keep our kids in high school to long they should graduate at 16.That is the best time for a person to go to college. 11th and 12th grade is a waist of time.

They control and own our kids.

Big Corporate America (aka our Government) are in the minds of our children they teach them to talk what to buy what to learn and shove their opinions and T.V commercials down our throats.

I love America, however it was not intended to take over our lives.

We must tell our selfes we brought these children into the world and we can educate them.
teach them the real meaning of family,respect,hardwork,fun,to love them selfes,compassion,how to responde and not react, to mature healthy in their minds and be content.

Yes I know I must sound like I don’t like America, but that is not the case. I love our Country.

I just wish parents would take back their families, and that starts with the innocent children we give to the schools.

If you have a heart to homeschool your kids and they are in public school, you should go and do it! Take the chance you won’t regret it.

I am hear to tell you that there are so many resources to tap into on homeschooling.
The homeschooling movement is very big now, and is not going to slow down. we have people on the front lines changing laws so we can get our innocent children back.

Here is a book I suggest reading this book. The Way Home Beyond Feminism Back to Reality. By Mary Pride.

I am not saying everyone can homeschool. Single parents need the School system and I am sure many other reasons to

I do think its great that our Government has offered our society an education. However it needs to be scaled down and not have so much Government influence. Give it back to the people.



Comments:

I found your posting interesting,

but as a public school educator, I think you’re painting all schools with the same brush, which is unfair. Many public school educators, including myself, are working our very hardest to bring the best out of our nation’s children.

It is true that the school system has increasingly been asked to take on more roles and responsibilities traditionally assumed by parents. Many parents abandoned their responsibilities, and the government was more or less forced to step in to provide those roles and responsibilities for the good of society.

I happen to teach in an exceptional public school that I attended from K-12. Our district mission statement pretty much says it all:

We will achieve distinctive learning results that exceed similar schools and all public schools.

We will provide a positive, nurturing and enabling learning environment for all students and adults.

And day after day, my colleagues and I are working towards these two goals. Despite budget crunches, the ridiculous implementation of some of the facets of the No Child Left Behind Act, and the rising poverty levels among our students, we are getting some great things accomplished. Bear in mind that our poverty levels are above 65% in our district.

I’m a theater and vocal music educator, and while some may argue that it’s a “fluff” area to teach in, I try to help my students develop skills that will aid them far beyond the classroom. Both my voice and theater students keep journals that help them document and discover their own learning styles. They set goals for each quarter with what they want to learn, how they plan to take action, and how they will be able to observe that they’ve accomplished their goals. They self-assess their own performances and the performances of their peers. Our efforts as a music department have been recognized on both local and national levels

Furthermore, my fellow music educators and I have worked hard to make the music department a nurturing place for kids. Many of our students elect to spend their free time down in the department, where they may come to work on music-related pursuits, or just do their homework. We get to know more about their lives than many typical teachers do. I try to remind myself every day that I may be the only loving, caring adult that comes into contact with a kid each day—it’s up to me to set an example of how an adult should behave.

As for my own children (which I have yet to bear), I suspect I will likely always remain highly involved in their education, whether by supplementing what they receive at school with in-home teaching, or perhaps home-schooling them for a period.

I agree with you that the American education system needs to continue to be reworked, but the answer is not necessarily to pull your children out of the system entirely. Get to know your local educators and their philosophy. Start a movement within your area. Your thoughts and experiences can be part of an educational revolution—and please don’t write those of us in public education off! Most of us are truly working our tails off trying to shape a better tomorrow for your children!

You give us all hope

I am so glad to here people like you care so much for these children.

Sometimes the teachers are the only caring, positive role models.

Not every school system falls into these problems.
I am also not saying that all education is lost just the base of it. The foundation.
I agree we should not pull all the kids out of schools.

If the parents had a say in what we think our kids should be taught that would be a good way for us to be involved.

However we have no say so.
Yes we can come in and have a meeting with a teacher and talk about our child.
You can tell us what to work on at home with them. That still does not let us parents have any leading role in the class room.

That would be great to be involved in our children’s education.

The education system here in Nevada
has never provided parents a chance to give their views on what our children should be taught.

The local educators here have no say so on what they can teach. That is why many of them left the system and went into private teaching.

I am not suggesting to give up on children that are in poverty. The public school system may be their only hope in life.
who are putting up with the very difficult challenges that pass their way.

I just want to take back some burden from you teachers

I know you are doing your best. Please keep doing that. I do not believe all is lost.

That would be an ideal world, parents and teachers doing this together. Half day at school half day at home.

I just want more parents to step up and get involved with their children,
I understand you have the compassion and if parents are not going to do it then who? I understand that concept. However it’s leaving the parent unaccountable.
My question is why are so many parents doing this? What happen to their education?

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if i can butt in here

it’s a fascinating thread. I can see both sides. I think it’s great when you find teachers like Katie – teachers who don’t turn up to get their grades high to get better salaries, but ones who want to help kids learn something, about life, about themselves, and even about schoolwork, whatever their starting place.

but sometimes the Katies of this world aren’t around in a school setting, so the parents have to make extra efforts.

A lot of my fellow graduates went on to teach for the wrong reasons, and I get so mad at them underneath. But for five who did that, there’s maybe one who found her calling. I’m just holding out that the larger part of them do. I’ve had huge doubts, and there are some teachers who disappointed me enormously and made me long to homeschool just to get my kids back to reasonable levels of confidence in human beings. Those people have enormous influence over our kids, but they are only human, and therefore come out with a lot of shit sometimes. On the other hand, there have been teachers who have inspired my kids, and inspired me in doing so, and I wouldn’t have missed that for the world.

I guess we can only do what feels right at the time. So you’re both right to feel the way you do.

This is kind of dialogue that we need...

...to have in the public school system. I agree, it’s a multi-faceted issue, and parents DO need to have a say in what’s taught and how. I would MUCH rather have a plethora of opinions on what should be taught and by whom than a shortage of them. Sadly, it seems there just aren’t many willing to take the cause all the way up to the people who make decisions at the local, state, and federal level.

there are good teachers but...

school is made, like many things to be acceptable to the lowest common denominator; the middle masses.

If a child does not fit nicely inside that little box, due to learning disabilities, giftedness, personality or a host of other reasons, traditional public school will fail those kids. They will either be beaten down (emotionally) until they submit and conform or they will be outcasts, labled bad kids and trouble makers.

That is the sad fact of the matter. And with around 30 children and only one teacher in your average classroom, teachers can’t be expected to cater to the individual needs and desires of kids on the outsides of the bell curve(whatever bell curve that might be measuring) Not to mention that teachers are now forced to teach kids how to pass standardized tests rather than how to love learning for learning’s sake.

The only viable options for that odd child (like mine) seem to be expensive private schools that use “alternative” methods of education or homeschooling. Since I have a lot more time than money, It seems like we will settle on the latter.

pioneerspirit is re-discovering 43

I've been considering this option

since moving to Nebraska. In Portland, we had some truly extraordinary public and many private schools to choose from. Here, well, I’ve been angry, scared, and finally fed up with what’s been happening to my child. And she’s only been in kindergarten a little over a month.

I know I’m pulling her out, but there are not many options, one montessori and a few catholic schools.

I agree with all of the above comments. It’s been such a frustrating experience: watching my child, and others be brow-beaten, learning how to be “seen, not heard”, learning how to “fit in”, even if it means pretending she doens’t know something she’s known for the last 2 years. Her little face looks so strained. I’ve been volunteering in the classroom, and I just couldn’t bear to hear how the teachers spoke to them, the lack of creativity, or inspiration in the projects. It makes me sick.

pioneerspirit is re-discovering 43

Could you recommend more books?

I’ll be looking for that Mary Pride one you mentioned. One thing that scares me about homeschooling, is that I simply don’t have a model for it in my mind, I can’t visualize how it’s going to work . . . . Then there’s also the fact that my child is off the charts extroverted, and learns very quickly by being exposed to different caretakers, teachers, adults and children, and don’t know how to provide that on my own.

Sorry, to ask dumb questions, but I’m very ignorant on the whole subject. I just now feel this overwhelming need to protect my child from the mindless indoctrination.

Recommendation

Hi Pioneerspirit,

I understand your heart! You have not asked any dumb questions. I understand you love your child and you want a better chance for her. The key now is to put action behind it and fight for your child’s future. It’s important that you find your voice in homeschooling. This will help you out in many, many areas.

Don’t worry about your daughter now, she is only five. Don’t panic and feel you are shorting her an education. she just needs to play and spend time with mommy. The real schooling starts at 7 or 8. You have lots of time to research. However check your state laws.

The laws here in Nevada do not require us to register our children until they are 7. Different rules for different States. Here is the link to Nebraska
homeschooling laws and resources.Sorry you have to cut and paste. http ://www.nchea.org/

Here are some steps to take.

1.First read Mary Pride.
This will help you make a sure decision.

2. If you are married make sure your husband feels the same way. It takes a family to do this.

3. Buy and research these books. You wont find a homeschooling method right away. It could take 2 years or so. Homescholling is by trial and error at first.

4. Find a support group who homeschool in your community.

Churches are a great place to start.
Not all homeschoolers are Christians. If you are not a Christian that’s okay. You can still homeschool it’s just a stereotype that scares people away.

You will get your best advice from, what we call is a lifer.These are Parents who have commited to homschooled their children k-12th.
If you can find a homeschooler mentor that is great.

5. Know your state laws. I believe you said Nebraska. I have sent you a link for Nebraska’s homeschooling laws and resources. If I have the wrong State let me know I can help you with a link.

You are going to have many, many questions so don’t loose hope. They will all be answered in time

I hope I helped. I am always here for questions.

I use Robinson Curriculum. That is self-teaching method. I absolutely love it.

Here are some links.or just cut and paste.

These are the names of the books. Cut and paste into amazon search engine

Kind regards,

Colleen -5inReno

p.s

Let me know what you think of the Mary Pride book .I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

Website:look this up in Google.
Homeschool Curriculum Excellence – Robinson Self-Teaching Homeschool Curriculum

Books:
1. The Way Home: Beyond Feminism, Back to Reality
by Mary Pride

2. Mary Pride’s Complete Guide to Getting Started in Homeschooling
by Mary Pride (Paperback – June 2004)

Home learning year by year by Rebecca Rupp

Charolett Mason books (Fantastic)

pioneerspirit is re-discovering 43

Thank you so much

For all your information, and for so honestly opening your heart on 43things, it’s really made me open to this idea, that, and actually seeing the public school system at work.

I’ll be checking those books and links as soon as I can, and I’m sure I’ll have more questions then.

wow

I so think I know where you are coming from. not going to go into family history here, but I think I can see why you want to homeschool. (I can’t homeschool, I don’t have the patience or the knowledge, so I really admire people who can pull it off).

If you do put them in school – any school – which is not so much about learning, but about really trusting other people to not abuse being the most authoritative influences in their lives for the largest amount of time – they need to know how to deal with it all, and for me that means sometimes giving them the right words to say in situations neither they nor you fully understand, just so they have something to experiment with. At least that’s how I handle the transition phases, and it has worked, if only because we both know what the ‘experiment of the day’ is going to be. It’s a daily goal that changes all the time. And if only they would tell us what exactly is bothering them it would make it easier!

Against my principles, I eventually caved in to letting them know subtely and occasionally, that yes, their x teacher is a bit of a moonbat and not to worry, we’ll sort it out at home. You can say it’s your little secret; you can be irreverent and subversive and reteach them, as long as no-one else knows. I encourage my son to sneak happy books into school, so he can have a read of something nice if it all gets too nasty or too boring. For other people it’s “sing a happy tune”. Kids have ways of dealing with life when it seems impossible, but we can make it a little easier while waiting for the Big Solution.

But then it’s easier when you have good teachers. I have wanted to throttle teachers on many an occasion, for polluting my impressionable children with tired clichés and learned and sometimes – at least as I see it – very wrong behaviour.

Having experimented a few adverse educational situations, I can safely say that the fact you are looking to solve this problem means that you will find the right way for your child.
Pulling them out can be a solution, but you are so right to ask yourself if the “fix” is the right one. It is a personal decision, and one you will both live with for the rest of your lives. I hope you will never be afraid to experiment on this one, as long as your child seems to be benefitting from it. Is there any way you can ‘test the concept’ first, before making a decision?

From the bottom of my heart, I wish you the best of luck with your schooling plans, wherever they lead you both!

pioneerspirit is re-discovering 43

I don't know whether i have the energy either,

at least right now with my current health. So she’s in one of the private schools now. But I’m going to keep researching this option, for later. I’m going to take it step-by-step, depending on the teacher she has.

Like you, laweez, at first, I also thought, “well, as long as it’s not too bad, maybe it’ll build some character.” I even threw the I Ching, and it had something similar to say - growth and cultivation through adversity. But then a couple of things happened that just pushed me over the edge, and there were safety issues at school which people there parents, administrators, and teachers (not all, but a vocal group)- were refusing to deal with.

Through the I Ching, and in my heart seems like the right decision.

Balance

Homeschooling is not for everyone. I have a very dear friend who thinks homeschooling is the best. However she knows she has no patients for it. She does the best she can with her children and they are very happy. She keeps her kids close and communicates with them. She refuses to give all the power over to the teachers.
I like what you are doing with your children you are bringing balance. I wish more parents did that.

I believe there are many good teachers.
I also believe education just works better one-on –one.
Homeschooling better prepares you for learning how to learn. In almost all cases you get a better foundation in reading and math, and you’re free to adjust grade levels by subject according to your abilities. Homeschooling also prepares you for interacting in an adult environment. , Since the vast majority of extracurricular activities have a much better adult-to-child ratio than you find in public schools.

I wish this was the fix realistically this is not. Homeschooling indeed is a big decision. I can say homeschooling is very successful for most families. Can I say I will never put my children in public school? NO! I do this year to year. You never know when life will through you a curve ball.
Testing the concept? Yes its possible.

Thank you for your encouragement.
Colleen

Here are some leaders in our country that were homeschooled.
George Washington, General Douglas Macarthur, Thomas Edison, Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, and many more.

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Maybe you should learn to spell before you try to teach your children.
I think it’s a stupid idea. You’re just going to make them friendless and insecure around other people. Kids need to learn how to interact outside of their home.


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