Astrology is a myth invented by ignorant people in the past who simply didn’t know any better and didn’t have the tools to understand their world.
This doesn’t mean they were evil or bad, just wrong.
I am willing to talk with anyone about this subject on any level, but the discussion must be polite and rational. I will accept any challenge to analyze my birth date.
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It’s good to know the whole world hasn’t gone crazy. Restores my faith in humanity sometimes.
Will you answer a question to qualify your own astrological knowledge?
I will politely and rationally accept your challenge if you can give evidence that your astrological knowledge is sufficient to engage in a credible dialogue instead of a stone throwing match.
Q: What planet is found, with greater than chance frequency, in the G-sectors of the astrological charts of eminent scientists?
I’m not sure whether to be amused or insulted by your straw man. It’s exactly the wrong kind of reply to make if you want me to take you seriously, and in fact exactly the sort of thing people who know their beliefs aren’t compatible with scientific reality often do: attack the person who delivered the “offending” disagreement instead of addressing it.
Instead of trying to make ME seem unintelligent by testing the extent to which I have or have not filled my brain with esoteric trivia, why don’t you start with something a bit more basic? After all, if the fundamentals don’t jive, then the vaunted higher levels must necessarily tumble to ruins around the base.
If you pick any set of people (or numbers, or bananas, or robots) and start looking at their data for patterns you’re going to find some because human beings are very good at pattern recognition: so good we often see patterns where there aren’t any—the Virgin Mary in a weather stain, a duck in the clouds. If you look at the statistics of “eminent scientists” for some kind of astrological correlation, SOMETHING is going to show up as the most common. But correlation doesn’t indicate causation. It’s the same kind of problem poor Richard Hoagland has with finding trigonometetric relationships for his “cities on Mars” and with his seeing “buildings” in image compression artifacts when looking at pictures of other worlds.
The basic tenet of astrology is that the positions of celestial bodies at the times of our births have an effect on our personalities, lives, prospects, et cetera.
Let’s start simply: how is this effect communicated? If you can answer that without waving your hand, then maybe we can have a discussion. But don’t try to deflect attention from the issue I’ve raised—astrology is wrong.
Too bad he didn’t answer my question.
Honestly, I have zero interest in these skeptic v. astrologer smackdowns – they’re like eternally dripping sandwiches.
The challenge was to analyze your astrological chart. Do you want me to do that, or do you not?
If so, I need your birth date, year, birth time, and birth city.
You have zero interest—then why begin this at all? I didn’t answer your question for very good reasons, which were explained clearly in my reply. You knew I wouldn’t answer when you asked it, but didn’t need the stars to tell you that.
Oh, I’m sorry—was there an offer somewhere in your original post to analyze my birth date? Most of the information you want is on my profile. I’m 32 years old. I was born just before eight in the morning.
Do I even need to say that you should come up with something that isn’t freely available about me on the Web, or is that a little too skeptical?
Will your analysis include every planet? What about those not yet detected? What about stars on the other side of the galaxy? What about other galaxies? Do black holes count as an influence? Do you need to know the heights and weights of the other people in the delivery room because—I gotta tell ya—they had more of an effect than anything.
Simmer down… I’m not your enemy. You were the one who, in your original post, offered to discuss astrology on any level, and accept any challenge to analyze your chart – I’ve attempted both.
Thanks for playing along so far, though I had hoped for an exact birth time. But, I can also understand your need to not give the impression that you take this very seriously.
Anyway, I proceed…
Using the data available to me, I calculated your astrological chart. And, looking at it, it’s easy to see why we get along so well (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!). Seriously, astrologically speaking, we’re both Aquarians with the Moon in a fire sign.
According to the chart, it’s immediately obvious that you’re actually a very sensitive person, with a capacity for great compassion, and an intuitive sense of the oneness of all things. You may think of this in scientific terms, but that’s just you.
Your sensitivity and sense of oneness are rooted in a need to experience life on a much deeper than surface level. And, this is where your natural skepticism is most useful. I don’t mean using the pullout in the back of “Skepticism for Dummies” – that’s too clean. I mean the instinct to actually pursue, confront, and slaughter any sacred cow (science, religion, relationships, etc.) and ingest its meat.
This instinct can also express itself in a need to confront taboos, and publicly admit an interest in nude photography, or even a one night stand.
Oh, and the fun doesn’t end there!
If you choose, I can talk about your earning power being directly tied to your ability to communicate ideas, or how you use your mental power as much to buck authority as to become one. I can talk about the new relationship cycle that is beginning for you, or your eventual spiritual awakening (trust me – it’s not what you think).
Should I go on, or should I buzz off?
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