finish dental school
First year down, 3 more to go!

Whew! The first year was rough! I don’t know how I managed to do so well, but thankful nonetheless. Up ahead, year 2, the most difficult year (traditionally) and part 1 of boards at the end of it. Well, here goes…
All the best to my fellow colleagues!

UPDATE
Year two is in the books! It was rough and I am now entering my 3rd year (D3). I just took part 1 of the National Boards Dental Exam, and it was the most difficult test I’ve taken in my life! All I can do now is trust in my God that I passed. This summer of my D3 year is perhaps THEE hardest quarter, because we will have the same load of classes with the addition of seeing patients. All the upper classmen give me the same response. Here goes!

UPDATE Dec 2009
I’m half way through my third year (2 more quarters left) and it’s very different. We’ve been busy with treating patients 4 days a week with classes in between. Being on clinic is a whole new stress. I am currently struggling with acquiring clinic points required for graduation. A lot has to do with the patients you get and how much work they need, and whether they can pay or not. The classes are more relaxed, but they keep you busy with projects and exams. In fact, it sucks to have clinic while in final exam week! My goal now is to catch up on clinic points going into my last year so as to graduate on time.



Comments:

Hey! I read you comment about if anyone needs help or information about the post bac program. I’m a pre dental student. I just graduated from Davis. I want to take part in the USC post bac program but I haven’t applied to dental schools and I also havent taken my DATs. Any help?? I need to raise my GPA before I can apply so I think a Post Bac would be perfect for me. If you know of any contacts that might be able to help or anything else, please send the info my way! :) Thanks!!

Hey, thanks for asking! I think a post bac through one of the dental schools is a great way to prove to them what you’ve got. You may have found a contact info, but if not, contact Sandra Bolivar, J.D. at bolivar@usc.edu. She’s the assistant dean of admissions for minority students. Oh yeah, that reminds me… the post bac program is not necessarily a minority only program, but a disadvantaged students program. In other words, you have to show that you are/were disadvantaged in order to qualify.
Since I attended the Loma Linda dental school post bac, I know more about it than USC’s, so their program may be different. Usually, these programs are offered to pre-dental students who have applied and were rejected. Therefore you may need to take your DAT (with a strong score) and apply to both programs at the same time (DDS and post-bac).
One more thing; I haven’t heard all the details, but since these programs are state funded, there is concern as to how long they will continue to be offered due to the terrible economy. That’s another point you may want to discuss with Sandra Bolivar. Hope this helps and good luck!

Bohobabe123 is going to catch the train!

Help

Hi Yamel,
Thank you so much for posting about your journey into dental school. I’m sure you have been an inspiration to hundreds of students with out even knowing it!

I wanted to ask you if you could share some study tips it would be an additional boost.

You mentioned that you were at school from 8 Am to 11 pm Mon through Friday!

How many of the 16 hours you were at school would you spend studying?

How did you keep from being distracted? (Friends, Internet ,Phone calls, boredom, spacing out etc.)

How did you structure you days?
( study breaks, eating, and additonals tasks like working out etc)

&

Finally,

Now that you are in dental school, do you retain the same study schedule or is it more intense? How do you maintain motivation and stamina?

I know you are really busy with dental school but it would be awesome if you could reply.

I will give you karmic pts for you just for replying on top of the additional ones you already racked up by helping so many kids belive in hardwork and its rewards! True inspiration!

Thanks

and Remember everyone *

“The pain is forgotten once the gain is gained”

and

“You either experience the pain of regerts or the pain of discipline”

Hi back and thank you for your kind words! I am always happy to help.

My typical school day during undergrad was a little too OCD I admit, but it was the best thing I’ve done to boost my GPA and also, prepare me for the DAT.

I had classes from 8-noon usually, with an occasional class in the afternoon. I also TA’d Histology and Physiology on my light days. After class, I would go straight to the library and studied the material presented that same day, followed by reviewing my older notes.

I was a slow studier; meaning that I spent about 2 hrs on each lecture I had that day. Then I simply re-read my old notes to stay fresh. By the time the section exam came I was scoring 95-100 almost always.

So, about 4-6 hours was spent in class and about 6-8 hours studying with the remaining few hours on breaks, eating and gym. Oh, and I was an officer for pre-dent ASDA for my last 2 yrs, which also ate up some time.

Avoiding distractions was much easier back then since I had no laptop and no iPhone :) All my notes were on paper and organized. Many of my friends studied elsewhere and much less, so I rarely saw them. Every now and then, I would go to another school’s library to change up the scenery. It was 2 years of being very lonely unfortunately.

Then on weekends I would party :) and would not study a drop until Monday.

Dental school takes up much more time in the day. The 1st year we were at school from 8-5pm every day except Friday. I studied the same way my entire 1st year as I did in undergrad. It paid off!

The 2nd year tapers off in classes, but makes up for it with more dental labs. We’re in class from 8-noon, with afternoon labs twice a week until 5pm. Then on afternoons “off”, we either have it completely off or we have clinic time. The problem the 2nd year is that there’s not enough time to finish all our lab work during scheduled labs, so we’re in lab after school anywhere from 2-6 hours. Then we can go study.

Second year is a difficult transition. You need to study a little less than 1st year, but more than what they give you time for. Now, we’re studying for boards part 1, we have an extra lab (3 instead of 2), patients and class study. It’s killing us. I haven’t worked out at all since starting dental school, but there is time for it. It’s just that I prefer/need to use that 1-2 hrs for catching up. It seems I’m always behind on lab.

Dental school is definitely more intense from a time management pov in addition to loads of material to learn in 1/3 the time of undergrad (we’re on quarter system). The only way I’ve maintained my sanity is to focus on one day at a time preparing for the next day. I also take Saturdays off.

This is a bit long, but I hope that answers your questions. Thanks again!

Hello Yamel,
I hope Dental School isn’t treating you too badly ;)
I wold like to inquire about LLU’s Post-Bac program. I graduated in Biological Sciences from UCI. Unfortunately my undergraduate experience was very tough as I struggled with personal,immigration, and employment problems that took a toll on my GPA. Consequently, I had to retake several classes. The AADSAS application includes the original grade with the retaken grade in the GPA calculation. I love the Sciences and if I was presented with the right milieu I would have kicked ass in my undergraduate.
Now, I will be taking the DAT on July 1st. I am confident that I’ll score very high (circa 25 on my practice DAT tests). How can I improve my GPA??
Dental school is my calling and I really want to get in!!!!

Thank you

Roula*

Hi Roula, and thanks for asking!
Please look over my previous post about the LLU post-bac program.

In short, there’s not too much one can do to boost their GPA unfortunately. I postponed my graduation another 2 years just to bring it up from 2.5 to 2.8 with nearly straight A’s.

The good thing about the post-bac is that if accepted into it, you have an opportunity to show them what you’ve got over one year. I believe you can apply for the post-bac before applying to dental school, but normally all the students who get into the post-bac applied to the dentistry program and were declined.

In your case, if you score 20+ on the DAT, it will make them think twice about you. I think you should apply for both the post-bac and dental school with a DAT above 20.

If neither of that works, you may have to do a master’s, which will let you start over with your GPA in a sense. They will still look at your undergrad, but with a master’s you can prove what you’ve got just like the post-bac.

I hope that helps and best of luck!


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