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Help! 12 months ago

Ok, so this question is inspired by a bit of a mess that seems to have found me. I can already hear Uncle laughing after he reads this, but I need some advice on this, too.

I have a new female admirer back home in Ohio. The problem? I have no interest in her and she appears to be crazy. She is a waitress at a restraunt my parents and I eat at all the time. On Sunday, she came up to my Mom and told her that she had gotten her first ever tattoo because it reminded her of me and then proceded to take off her shirt in the restraunt and show it to my mother. She then just kept talkng and talking and talking about me and asking all sorts of questions about when I was going to come back to her and what I was doing down here in Kentucky and just on and on. She was really nice to me when I went home last time but nothing that made me think that it was moving in this direction. I want nothing to do with this woman for a whole lot of reasons. Unc, I know you think lunatics make the best ass, but I have no interest in finding out with her.

I have never had a woman interested in me (although Dad used the term obessession on the phone yesterday) where I was completely disineterested. I have been on the receving end of some pretty shitty rejections, so I don’t want to hurt her feelings. I’m also pretty sure she’s at least slightly crazy based on other things she has told me in the past and, well, the fact that she got a tattoo over me. I know I could just stop eating there, but I don’t feel like I should have to and I really don’t want to. She’s known me for years so she knows I’m not gay and that I’m not dating anyone, so anything like that would be an obvious lie.

So, all that said, here is my question. How do I successfully get rid of her without hurting her feelings or winding up with a stalker?



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Tink is pleased with her progress.

An awkward situation, and...

...a genuine concern, especially if you believe (and I certainly concur) that she might be a tad unstable mentally and/or emotionally.

That said, part of me wants to cheer the very fact that you are experiencing such a problem. As a dear friend of mine would say, “It’s kind of a classy problem to have.” It’s all part and parcel of becoming a Chick Magnet.

As for suggestions/advice, you’ve already outlined the options that occur to me immediately: the “little white lie” that would “let her down gently” and/or out-and-out avoidance. I might still be tempted – particularly if you can get your folks on board with this plan – to “invent” a brand-new “flame” (maybe a long-distance one, so that she wouldn’t expect to meet this fabulous woman) who has just recently become the focus of your energies.

Maybe someone here would be willing to act as your “beard” for these purposes. Hell, if it’ll help, I’ll send you a photo of me (perhaps one from my 20s, when I could still make former classmates – and teachers! – swoon at my high-school reunion) to carry in your wallet. Sort of like the “wolf ring” I used to wear when I travelled solo.

Why do you have to do ANYTHING?

Let her be attracted to you.

SO?

You don’t need to stop going there, why should you? It’s not like she’s following you around or anything. Or making your life miserable.

I mean, what, you’ve never been attracted to someone?

I think you’re making a big deal out of nothing. Plus…one day you may go in there all horny and shit and decide you’ll take some head from the lunatic.

Did you miss the part

where I pointed out that she’s crazy?

Being attracted to me is one thing, getting her first tattoo because it reminded her of me is quite another. As is asking my mother when I am going to come back to her.

This is a woman who has openly told me and other customers of attacking her mother with a kitchen knife. This is a woman who has been married 4 times but talks about how she receives no alimony. She’s crazy.

I’m not terrified she’s going to kill me or anything, but I do see a crazy woman focusing her energy on me to be a problem and of concern.

Then with her fuller description...

...you’ve defined your only course of action.

Either fuck the bitch…or eat somewhere else.

It seems pretty simple to me.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

What was this tattoo OF?

Do you know? It wasn’t a tat of YOU? Was it? Just something that “reminded” her of you. Like a tattoo that says “I love Jaimie” or “I Want Jaimie’s Love Child in My Uterus”?
Or…
“If I can’t have Jaimie, no one will”?

I don't think

it was anything that weird. Just the whole notion of her getting one because of me feels creepy enough, though.

Jessy is tired.

Hahahaaaaaaaaah

Your imaginary tats are better than anything that the crazy person could ever come up with.

I am still ROFL at “I want Jamie’s love child in my uterus.”

Hey!

What’s so funny about someone laughing at me wanting her love child in her uterus?

Oh, you’re laughing at that as a tattoo. I get it, now.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

oh I got more

My brain never stops coming up with stupid crap like that.

I agree with Unc on this one.

Except for the last bit. ahem.

It’s fine for her to be attracted to you. You can still be friendly with her (though you may want to make sure things are more along the lines of cordial so it’s clear that you like her, but not romantically). If she makes an obvious overture or declares her undying love, you can say, “Well, you know, I like you, too. But I like our friendship the way it is and I’d like to keep it that way.”

I try not to go the route of lying, unless you are really concerned for your safety or something. If you’re seriously worried she’s going to drive to Kentucky wearing adult diapers with pepper spray and duct tape in her car, maybe then a lie would be appropriate.

I think you missed

the primary point.

It’s not the attraction part that’s the problem. It’s the having a crazy woman attracted to me that’s the problem. There’s not even a friendship there, and I don’t particularly like her. I just don’t want to hurt her feelings.

Seriously, if some guy you only knew casually got a tattoo because it reminded him of you, that wouldn’t concern you?

I did not appreciate the level of her lunacy.

I had the impression, since you mentioned that you’ve known each other for years, that there was some level of friendship (or acquaintance) there that you appreciated, and that she had simply developed an inappropriate runaway crush on you. And that she was planning on getting a tat anyway and this one reminded her of some shared joke or something between you.

But.

I just read about the knife thing and all I can say is…

run for your freaking life!

If a truly insane man were working at a restaurant I frequented, and if I were not this man’s friend, and if this man became obsessed with me to the point where he tattooed himself in my honor…Jamie, find another frigging restaurant! I don’t care how good the gravy is! Give it up!

Just scrolled down and saw that Unc says the same thing…so he and I are definitely on the same page on this one. Um, again, except for the “get some and run” part. That’s aaaallll Unc.

Jessy is tired.

Some of y'all may be missing the point,

the point being, CRAZY.

If she were a normal person with a crush, Unc and Nic would be right on the money.

But she’s crazy. Sheesh, y’all never saw Fatal Attraction?

I go with Tink’s white lie scenario. You are in love with a woman from . . . Japan . . . whom you met briefly until she returned to her home country and whom you now correspond by email and Internet. Her name is . . . umm, Hello Kitty.

Bah!

IF she’s a real live lunatic, as Jamie seems to think, only another lunatic or a moron would continue to frequent the restaurant.

Jessy is tired.

Stayin' away from

that one . . .

Thanks, Jessy

The point is that she’s crazy. I can deal with a sane person having a crush on me. It’s the obviously unstable behavior that concerns me.

Maybe I will start dating Hello Kitty.

Well, then, WHY would you continue...

...to “put yourself at risk” by going there?

And Kitty is already teaching you to cook, you may as well date her…HELLO!

Jessy is tired.

Hello Kitty

has a few issues, too.

That's true

but I’ll take my chance. :P

Kel says it's way too hot

I'd have to go with

having your mom mention a new girlfriend in your life, maybe. Or even wear a wedding band next time you’re there – not the kind that turn your finger green, though!

Other than that, I WOULD quit going there. Or have her shot.

I was hoping there

was some option that didn’t involve lying or stopping eating there, but I guess not.

I will not be giving her a shot.

Kel says it's way too hot

Like they say

sometimes a lie is a kindness – if not for her, then for YOU!

(And I know a coupla guys who, for just a grand or so, shoot pretty well!) Sometimes a shot is a kindness -..., maybe not.

LOL

You know hitmen? Really?!

I think maybe a lie might be enough, but just in case, keep those gunmen on speed dial for me.

Kel says it's way too hot

These guys

aren’t mafia hitmen – I have to go to my Jersey friends for that! These 2 only (ONLY!!!) did time in the state pen for killing people. Okay, they got caught, but they say they know a lot more now about how to do it without getting caught. A real institution of education, that penitentiary! Killing ed, sex ed (ouch), do they still make license plates??

Let's go at this slowly and logically.

First, is she cute or an ugly fucking skank?

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Psst

I love big girls.

ACK!!

NO!

First, if you’re trying to tell us all that you are fat, there’s not one person here that’s buying that for one second.

Buxom and lithe and Amazonish have absolutely nothing to do with fat. And you ain’t fat.

BUT…beyond that, what I meant was not fat, but ugly. I’ve gone back and changed it so no one else will make that mistake.

And, by the way, I’m with Jamie. I love round and full!

Yum!

oh Unc, - is determined
Again, my approach with people like this... - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
I bet - Poetry Boy
hardly - is determined
I love the South - Poetry Boy
LOL!!!!!!! - is determined
Well... - Poetry Boy
siiighhh - is determined
Her round posterior in his thoughts - Poetry Boy
Yeah, I'm a girl, - nicolasc is out of ideas for clever status lines...
aaawww my sweetie, - is determined
It never ceases to amaze me... - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
Maybe it's just an artifact... - Tink
Yeah, maybe so. - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
I've been thinking this over a little bit. - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
Indeed, that's a question... - Tink
well, - is determined
I wish I could say more here - Poetry Boy
you are very sweet - is determined
And ONE of the things that you... - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
This is a large part - Poetry Boy
I am teary eyed Unc. - is determined
LOL! - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
oh, believe me, - is determined
Your way is without a doubt the smart way. - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
actually now, unc, - is determined
You think not? - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
say what you want unc - is determined
No. - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
I just meant... - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
well, i dislike - is determined
Gotcha. - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
i got through - is determined
LOL! - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
I guess this means - Poetry Boy
Mercy, Sis! - Tink
MAYBE you were a dumbass. - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
i try to look at it all - is determined
Untitled - Shelly's been cast out by God
In my case we were both very young. - nicolasc is out of ideas for clever status lines...
I do love them, too. - nicolasc is out of ideas for clever status lines...
um...yeah - angniks
Good one - christinet

She's neither

just average.

Again, crazy is the issue. I’m probably just going to find a new place to eat, though that feels like running away to me.

As you've seen, if you've read...

...my other comments, if you are serious about this and you think she’s a real lunatic, then you SHOULD eat somewhere else.

And you’re absolutely right, Jamie, it IS running away.

So what?

christinet has been in a cave of despair

It is running away

Fuck that, don’t let some crazy stalker steal your joy.
That is running away.
If she approches you, be real.
And then tell her to fucken get back to work!

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

Jaimie-

I know I’m married, but if you’d like I’d be willing to pose as your online girlfriend. I could send some pics and some letters telling you how much I love you and I’m so happy we’re together. Maybe then she’d believe you ARE seeing someone. Maybe you could even photoshop (or get Unc to do it) some pics of us on vacation together. You know, really make it look convincing. Oooh, oooh…and if she ever contacts you, I could call her up and tell her to stay away from my man!
I did take some acting classes in high school.

Kel says it's way too hot

Hey

this could get kinda fun! Just show up there sometime & start screaming down her throat! (I’ll pitch in for a plane ticket, if other people will, too!) Jamie’s mom can take photos!

That would be quite

the Kodal moment. :)

I don’t know how big Agniks is, but this woman makes me look small.

Kel says it's way too hot

Doesn't matter

it’s the element of SURPRISE that counts. ‘Course you might want to run that by Angniks!

Few things

are more effective than a good old fashioned ambush.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

yeah....

I think I’d rather avoid face to face confrontation with a psycho girl. All things being equal. But I’ll happily yell at her over the phone or internet.

Good Plan

I know everyone else that works there is scared of her.

I’d feel better if you yelled at her from a distance.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

I'm only 5'5

And I’m a freakin’ pussy.

She's bigger than you

I’m 6’ and weigh almost 300 pounds and she’s bigger than me.

I’m not going to comment on you being a pussy. :)

Tink is pleased with her progress.

I'll pitch in, too.

Seeing as how, until I have a passport again, I can’t offer to do it myself.

Go, Angniks, go!

EDIT AFTER READING REST OF THREAD: Never mind. Stick to yelling at her from afar. That way all your friends can yell at her, too. “Stay away from Ang’s man, you hussy!”

"...screaming down her throat..."

Great phrase.

That would be awesome!

Both the idea of you posing as my girlfriend and you yelling at her to stay away from your man are making me laugh really hard.

I told one of my friends today that if she shows up in Kentucky that I’m going to find him and kiss him on the lips, if need be.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

That would probably do the trick too.

I’m just offering possible solutions. You just let me know if you need a pic to put in your wallet or something. ;)

I may ask for one

just in case. ;)

BTW: I love all the zombie stuff on your page right now. :)

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

hee

Zombies rule.

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Thanks

I think?

That was a compliment, right? I mean a hottie telling me I could pass as a gay guy is something I’m not sure how to respond to.

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Since it drew a giggle

I’ll say it again.

You are definitely a hottie.

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Hey...

WAIT JUST ONE FUCKING MINUTE, JAMES!

How do we know this isn’t some ploy for you to get a bunch of real and sane, sort of, women to “get witchoo,” as Jeny would say?

Look, after just a few hours you have both The Tinkstress and Ang, both EXCELLENT models for woman, offering to help you out with pictures and love letters. I mean, can a quick trip out there be too far off?

And this is just the beginning.

I’M ON TO YOUR LITTLE GAME, MISTER!!

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

that Jaimie

he IS a playa.

That's right.

His mom sent me a picture of him from a few years ago when he was pimpin’ around.

SEE?

Augh!

I was hoping you had deleted that one. LOL

No need to re-visit that image again.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

wow

Where’s the clock- necklace?

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And, my...

Didn’t he cut a fine figure?

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

BTW-

Flattered to know I’m an excellent “model for women”. I assume that is a compliment.

Of COURSE it's a compliment!

Up and coming young women could hardly do better than you in looking for a role model. Of course, I don’t know if they do that or not…but that doesn’t change my point any.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

aaawww

blushing like mad

Tink is pleased with her progress.

P.S. I'm hugely flattered.

Forgot to say so in my earlier response.

Tink is pleased with her progress.

Point of clarification.

This is far from my first offer to date Jamie or go to visit him.

Nor, I suspect, is it the first such offer he’s had from some other “excellent models” (insert clever wordplay here on “43T” versus “Model T”), although mine might be the only public one, brazen hussy that I am.

I’m just saying, is all.

P.S. I’ve also offered to coach him on how best to present himself (e.g., what books to read at the coffee shop) so as to attract the Woman of His Dreams. All I need to do is recall what would have caught my eye 20-odd years ago, when I might have actually qualified. So this could even be my coach-y little plan (though it isn’t: I believe in “truth in advertising,” and would only ever coach him, or anyone, to be himself).

Yeah

You and I do have several dates already planned. All of which I am as excited as can be about.

Plus, you are indeed my coach in helping me attract the woman of my dreams. You’re doing a darn fine job so far, I might add.

PS: I love it when women are brazen hussies, at least once in a while.

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

Lithium

I suggest lithium. Slip it into her drinking water. Just a little bit every day. It’ll smooth those bipolar swings right out.

If you’re lucky, she’ll succumb to a side effect and come down with hypothyroidism, the main symptom of which is excessive tiredness. She’ll spend half her time off work, which should open up a decent time frame for you to grab a bite to eat at the restaurant.

Lithium occurs naturally in the waters of mineral springs, such as in Lithia Park in Ashland, OR, or springs in Saratoga, NY.

and it’s less controversial than, say, arsenic

Now this

is some truly useful advice. It seems to solve all of my problems perfectly. LOL

How does one get ahold of Lithium?

I’m just asking…for a friend.

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

I don't want to get involved

and anyway, I have no idea.

Got it

I guess I’ll have to find it “on my own” and hope for the best.

Thanks for the tip, Hawk. :)

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

Are you jewish?

That’s what the rabbi said to me right after the circumcision.

:)

OMG

See, this is why I love you. Mischief + practicality. Is there a better combination?

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

you forgot “sexy”

:)

EDIT: It occurs to me that those 3 terms describe YOU quite well, too.

::blush::

keep it simple.

Just be pleasant with her when/if you see her..

If she asks you out: tell her that you’re very flattered, but you don’t think the two of you would be a good match.

simple.

angniks had a nice birthday...thank you :)

until

She stabs him and eats his liver with some nice fava beans.

Hippie♥Chick is a Spiritual Tree Hugging Romantic

So Jamie, after all of this discussion

I know that you have to realize that there is no way to not hurt her feelings without lying and/or moving to a new eatery.

I think that you have to think about what is best for you and your family as she is obviously a little “coo coo ca choo”. Whatever you do, you need to do it soon and do it with conviction.

Tell her you are not interested. Move to a new restaurant or do both, but just do what is best for you and your family. Her feelings are going to be hurt regardless, but you need to make a decision about what you want to do very soon.

If you don’t do one or the other soon, it will only get worse. Before I met him, my husband had a stalker for a time. Her name was Tiffany. They had sex one night. To him it was a one night stand, however, she viewed it as a marriage proposal and she was relentless in her pursuit of her soulmate!!! The whole situation actually became violent before it was put to rest. You don’t need that or something like that.

I think that maybe what you really want to do is just go somewhere else and there is nothing wrong with that. It’s not running away, it just a solution. Sometimes ya know, with people who are mentally or emotionally ill, there is no way to reason with them and just exiting may be the most sensible thing.

P.S. I checked with my husband on the lunatics have the best ass theory. He said it wasn’t any better than anyone else’s. So . . move to a new eatery

OH, now...

I’ll have to have a talk with your hubby so he understands where I’m coming from with the “Lunatics often give up the best ass” theory.

Thanks, HippieChick

I was hoping that there was some other option I hadn’t heard of. I’ve had so many painful and hurtful rejections in my life that I’m really sensitive to that sort of thing, and even crazy people have feelings.

Thank you for sharing your husband’s story with me. That is exactly the type of situation that I’m trying to avoid.

Tink is pleased with her progress.

"Even crazy people have feelings."

That statement epitomizes the profound kindness that seems to inform your way of being in the world, Jamie.

I’m so glad I know you.

Thank you, Tink!

I do try to be kind to everyone. I don’t always succeed, but I certainly do try.

I’m really glad I know you, too.

Pyxidragon is time travelling for the weekend. Mostly.

{{{Jamie}}}

“Unstable” gets scary quickly. Honestly, avoid her if you can, and if she refuses, there’s always the option of a restraining order.

Admittedly, those don’t always work either (wish I didn’t know that), but it can help.

Thanks, Pyxi

Yeah, I’ve pretty much decided that I have no choice but to eat somewhere else.

I’m pretty sure having an unstable person whose affections I’m not returning bringing me my food is a bad plan anyway.

Artemis, The One With Nature is either a heathen or a sychophant, or both.

Don't pay attention to her

and stop acting like you’re interested in what she has to say. Crazy people love and crave attention. The more you give, the more they want. After while, she’ll leave you alone.

To be honest

I really haven’t paid much attention to her. She talks to me, but usually it’s my Mom who does all the responding. I just halfway listen and try to eat my food.

Artemis, The One With Nature is either a heathen or a sychophant, or both.

Well, then,

you did all you could. Just keep doing what you’ve been doing, and maybe eventually she’ll find somebody else to bother.

Agreed

I would add to be direct if she says something remotely creepy… something like ‘wow, that really makes me uncomfortable’ or ‘oooh, scary talk’ and make a creeped out face. ‘Please don’t stab me,’ might also be in order. ha.

Definitely shun her as much as possible and be direct (not rude, but not ambiguous either) about your lack of interest. Crazy people need it very much spelled out.

Hippie♥Chick is a Spiritual Tree Hugging Romantic

A final thought . . . my husband has a new girlfriend

Morticia adores him . . . and he adores her.

Maybe you could get a dog and your Mom can tell psycho-waitress that you have a new girlfriend, one who adores you completely!!!

if you get a male then your Mom has to break the news that you have a new boyfriend

How cute!!

If my apartment allowed it, I would have a dog in a second.

Hippie♥Chick is a Spiritual Tree Hugging Romantic

I'm off to give his girlfriend

breakfast now. I am such an understanding wife!!!

LOL!

You sure are. But, her cuteness seems hard to resist.

Next thing you know you’ll be letting her sleep in the same bed as you.

Hippie♥Chick is a Spiritual Tree Hugging Romantic

You laugh . . .

but she does . . . all of the dogs do.

awwwwwww

so sweet!!! She’s in puppy love.

by this time

who knows what kind of advice you’ve gotten.

First, I would have told you to just screw her and then leave her alone, but you don’t want a stalker.

All you can do is ignore her and if she persists then tell her over and over that you are not interested.

resist the temptation to be nicer than you have to be. sometimes tough love is necessary.

ScorpioNerve is bound for the ocean this summer! and hoping her son will be OK

Be honest!

I think it’s OK to be honest with someone, especially if they are totally creeping you out. I have made the mistake before of trying to remain friendly with someone who was creepy, and I regretted it BIGtime. I have also tried to let someone down gently before, and it did not work with creepos. I would say something like, “sorry, I have to be honest, I am not attracted to you, and frankly you make me uncomfortable.” Rip off that bandaid!

It seems

that’s the route I’m going to take. Well, that and eat somewhere else.


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