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A few words on Geezerhood. 11 months ago

I turned sixty yesterday and I feel oddly compelled to talk about that. I think mostly just to get things about it straight in my own head. There is an odd “sensation” attached to it for me for reasons I’m not sure I totally understand.

There’s shit about this rolling around in my head…so, in no order:

If people live to about eighty, then I’ve just finished 75% of my life. Or, I’ve got 25% of it left. So, the Grim Reaper isn’t coming for me yet, but he sure does have my name on the list now. I don’t sit around worrying about croaking, don’t misunderstand me, but this number, 60, has brought me a little closer to facing my mortality in a pretty direct way.

Though more sophisticated and mature, my opinions about things are pretty much what they were when I was 18 or so. Yeah, sure, some things have changed as I’ve changed, but largely I still hold the same opinions and thoughts that I did some 40 years ago. My point is that I don’t feel old in my head. Yet 60 is an old number.

And that brings up something else. I know that the concept of “old” is a lot dependent on one’s age. To someone who is 20, 40 seems old. But everyone would agree, mostly, that 60 is certainly old…me included. I’m two years away from an “early retirement” age, five years away from a “regular” retirement age, who knows how long away from being the victim of some old man’s medical problems. I have had some arthritis for some time and I feel it more and more each day. Yet, except for my fuckedfoot syndrome and some arthritis, I’m in remarkably good health, not likely to stroke out or die of heart disease…so I’m not so old medically.

My libido is as healthy as it’s ever been, if one can call it “healthy,” maybe getting stronger as I age. I still have full and regular erections, Viagra not necessary at all…though I think it would be fun to party with. And I have a sexy, beautiful, libidinous girlfriend cum wife who is 17 years younger than I…and I ain’t askeert of the challenge of keeping her satisfied…Groucho eyebrow wiggle, eyebrow wiggle…

Yet I crossed some sort of threshold for me yesterday, one that makes me somewhat uneasy, for reasons I still haven’t fleshed out, no matter this limited screed here.

Oh, well, things are what they are, right?

Meh, fuck me if I can’t take a joke.



Comments:

thanks for sharing

aging is an interesting inevitable process! I think about it all of the time. I am 48. I figure I have another 22 good years left and then I will be 80! 80 in just 22 years!!!! Happy birthday, you are definitely a young 60 year old. :)

God, I sure hate to be the one...

...to break this to you, Key…but Altzheimer’s is already setting in. In 22 years you’ll be 70. Still awfully fucking old, not not 80!

And, thanks for the birthday wishes…I sure do appreciate them.

ha ha ha ah hhhhhhaaaaaaa

gaaaaaawd. I feel so much better :) 70 isn’t that bad I guess!

No, no it's not.

Only ten years older than I am…gulp…

mybbt don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway. -bugs

idk if i made my point at all... happy bel8ed

dude my mom is turning 60 this winter too! & i gotta tell u she’s one cool person to hang out with, i wish she had half the spirit u hav for expressing ur great thoughts…. if my mom talked like u do i’d finally be able to stop worrying about her being too concerned about them stereotypes that encourage spiritual death by the age of…... 20 does for me…
i wish i’d be half as lively as u are: ever.
old is fucking far from what you are

HEY, man, thanks a lot!

That’s a great thing to say, and I really appreciate it. Give your mom my email address and tell her to get in touch…LOL

mybbt don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway. -bugs

sank U!

i wish lol
as if she does anything that could merely count as vital signs

mybbt don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway. -bugs

im loggin out 4 a while now

gr8 talkin to ya…. this whole group of 43ers is like….. ‘the cool guys’ hihi… glad 2 b hangin with the cool ones :P
catch ya l8er dude

mahinui aloha from the Big Island

There are some words like "old"

Start using them on yourself and pretty soon you and those words are joined somehow you don’t like. And then you start feeling crappy.

Like you said earlier, there are people who begin feeling some measure of life passing them by at 20. 30 is over the hill. What the heck is that about?

Being ageist is just another way of slicing and dicing – tossing people into categories and generalizing, exercising a kind of witlessness. So knock it off! And happy unbirthday.

Gotcha!

And thanks!

*Mama Bear* missing you guys...

Hey!!!

No one even told me it was your birthday!!! HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY, Old Man!!!! ;) ;)
But I get what you write though… there’s just something about a number sometimes, no matter how you feel inside and how little you put into numbers… It’s like if they have a life of their own or something.

is a cool age, I think. I don't know, I've always looked forward to it... a nice number :)

Well, my dad’s 61, so you could be my dad :p That doesn’t make you feel older, does it? ;)

LOL!

Thanks for the birthday wishes, Ma, I really appreciate them!

*Mama Bear* missing you guys...

My absolute pleasure!!!

You’ve got some crazy ideas, but I’m quite fond of you, you know :D

WHO has crazy ideas?

Certainly not ME!

And I’m fond of you too, thank you very much.

Tink is pleased with her progress.

Buddy, I only hope...

...I’m as “old” as you are when I’m as old as you are. Complete with the sexy, gorgeous (at least to me), libidinous honey of whatever age.

Line up over here. No stampeding.

Thanks, Tinkstress!

LOL!

Tink is pleased with her progress.

Might need to hire you...

...to sit in your folding chair (the one you used at the blues festival) and take care of Crowd Control for me.

No stampeding, or Unc’ll whack you with his cane!

:-D

I can do that, sure.

I can handle the Towel Concession if you don’t mind, and maybe make a few extra bucks.

You need a fluffer?

Tink is pleased with her progress.

Gonna need...

...lots of towels, ‘cause your “fluffer” suggestion has put me in grave danger of peeing myself.

And I’ll bet that it cracks me up every time I think about it for the rest of this day. Maybe this week. Hell, maybe the rest of my life.

I would not agree that 60 is old. Not in your case anyway. It’s subjective, age, in part, though. Some people are more trapped chronologically than others. I’ll offer my father as example. He is 66. But he looks and acts and lives as if he is 20, 30 years older than that, as a result of hard work alloyed and or allied depending on how you look at it, with over 50 years of severe and chronic alcoholism, substance abuse, heavy smoking, malnutrition; a lifetime of self abuse (and abuse of others) and neglect have ravaged him. He weighs 97 pounds and can not be without his oxygen tanks, more pills than he or anybody else can keep track of, can not go anywhere or do anything except visit his doctors and the hospital, more and more of his bodily functions shut down annually, and he is an incredibly pessimistic, negative, asshole who has always had and still does have, a piss poor attitide about everything, and as most of us are aware attitude is as much a part of good health as anything else. (After spending time with him, I feel like I need to go into detox just to rid myself of his negative vibes.) My point is that you and he are on opposite ends of a continuum, with you being on the beneficial end, brother. You are a young 60, he, an ancient, decrepit, corpselike 66. Lifestyle, choices, attitude…........sure, genetics too. But it’s apparent you choose life. He has been dying since he was in his 20’s, when he was first hospitalized for his alcoholism. My brothers and I refer to him as “The Longest Running Suicide Attempt in History”. I know that sounds cruel, but try being that man’s child; it has not been an easy thing to watch someone do that to themselves for 40 years, nor to have been caught in the middle at times, by proxy. I say that not by way of complaint; I am who I am because of all of my life experience and I’d not change any of it or wish to be anybody else. I am merely using him as an example of what is the opposite of you. How age is subjective. You chose life. He never did. Good for you: you’re young at heart, your arteries are clean, YOU have a daughter who adores you instead of one who merely tolerates you because it’s the right thing to do, a girlfriend who adores you, a foot that WILL heal in time, and a healthy attitude about life and living. You’re not a statistic (ie, living til 80, 75 percent of your life being over yada yada yada….......) My father is a statistic. One of his own making, just as you are NOT. I understand why you’re thinking more about mortality right now. We all have milestone moments when it becomes more of a consideration. But honestly, you and life are good friends, I’d say, so whatever time you have left whether it’s 20, 30 40 years, the quality of it is going to be wayyyyyyyy better than if you were on the same end of the continuum as my old man. Keep on carping that diem Unc….....

Jesus Christ, Bee!

THIS is a comment worth me framing.

I’ll be back. I need to think this over before I comment so I don’t sound like some dumbass.

For now…thank you and smooch.

Back atcha baby. I know it was a lot of info, maybe too much so, so please don’t feel compelled to respond, I certainly won’t be offended. It’s the kind of info (about my father) that is hard to respond to, I realize. But it’s obvious you got why I was bringing it up in the first place, which is cool. I was kind of…hmmm…well, nervous isn’t the right word….hesitant, I guess about putting it out there. I have not talked much about him here at all. But today it seemed to make sense to. Thanks for being receptive, and for receiving said info in the manner in which it was intended. Bee

No, no, Bee! I appreciated EVERY single word you wrote.

And I laughed out loud at the ”...Longest Running Suicide Attempt in History…” comment, though I suppose it isn’t really funny.

I know someone kind of like your dad, though not as bad off, but he’s younger and has plenty of time left to fuck himself up more…if he doesn’t croak. Emphysema, four packs of cigarettes a day, history of injectable drug use, repeated ventures into the ER because he can’t breathe, doctors telling him to stop smoking or die…

You know, like almost everyone else, I sure could have made better choices thru my life. I could make better ones now. But overall things have been ok. I don’t really feel old. Mostly I think it’s some sort of emotional reaction to the number. Oh, I’m not sure what it is, exactly.

But you’ve manged to put whatever I’m feeling in a grand perspective, Bee, and actually wrenched my attitude around from what it was to…hey, this ain’t so bad after all. And I’ll tell you, it’s often very hard to move me around like that.

Thank YOU!

Most welcome…..and it is OK to laugh at the Longest Running Suicide in History. It is a funny phrase. WE laugh about it…...Your Jeny is a lucky daughter. Somehow I bet she knows that….. ;~)

Yet another great thing to say to me. - Uncle Enore Christ...of the Stockton Christs.
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Nice.

Thanks, Gracie.

Hey, is this guy related to you some kinda way?

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I ain’t sayin’ nuthin’.

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

Cheers Uncle!

You just articulated what’s been going through my mind for the past year or so. I’ve said it before, what I really feel like, emotionally and mentally, is a 20 year old with 41 years experience. Physically…well, there’s no denying that the spry factor ain’t what it once was. But I look at some other guys our age and see broken down old men, and I know in my heart the difference is, they didn’t eat enough bacon or drink enough bourbon. It’s sad to see a guy let himself go like that.

So… On the issue of staying young… Burning Man 2009, Uncle. * Say you’ll go. It’s more than just another Dead concert, it’s not some stinkin’ craft fair, it’s not a circus tent revival for evangelical wannabes. It’s art. It’s life on the new frontier. It’s a fucking *EVENT!

Say you’ll go, old man.

I dare ya.

you’ll be needing a costume

omg - I might have the perfect companion

to bring along to this… but it is far away and far too unknowable at this time.

la la la

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

You may or may not

have the perfect companion to bring along. But rest assured, perfect companions will abound at Burning Man, whether or not you bring one. The important part is that you bring yourself.

:)

excellent point

and noted.

LOL!!

I’ll tell you what…a lot of things in my life are pending, as you know. But if all that shit comes together in any decent fashion, and Seren wants to go, we’ll be there!

Of course, I already have a costume picked out.

EDIT:

By the way, it’s nice to know that someone else feels as I do. If you don’t mind, I’m going to borrow that ”...with forty years experience…”

Nice.

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

I'm not letting this go, Unc

This is not something that’s gonna fall through the cracks (so to speak). What’s now pending is the 43T Convergence at Black Rock City.

You’re goin’.

nice costume. if i could make a suggestion? sunscreen, uncle. sunscreen.

LOL!

Got it!

Contemplative Jenn is keeping the dream alive

O please O please O PLEASE

say you’ll go!!! (and then DO it, of course).

You can wear ANY costume you want. In fact,better yet, I’ll Hawk’ll wear any costume you want!

C’mon, G….

I DOUBLE dare ya. ;)

Hawk~ help, i'm alive!

This could get ugly...

Don’t make us go there, Uncle

If I can get all my various shits...

...together adequately and the baby Serenity wants to go, it sounds great!

60

My mom said at 80 she still felt like a teenager a lot of the time, just looked different. One of her friends was in her 90’s, happened to have great health, and was one of the most astute, fun, kind, au courant people I’ve met. It was just who she was. So… I agree it’s unsettling to greet each one of these numbers after a certain point (that I also passed some time ago), but we might as well expect to simply be ourselves for however long we get the opportunity. It just doesn’t make sense we’d turn from ourselves into whatever childhood stereotype we had about people of a certain age. I think that fear is one of the top scary fears (but bested by straight mortality and health fears) about aging.

Yes, indeed.

Not to mention shitting in a diaper again some time.

that's a good fear, definitely

there are plenty of them, which is why a person tends to hear “you’re only as old as you think you are,” more from younger people than older people. We might be / get old which is a very real physical experience, but we’re still ourselves.

I’ve got a couple of friends trying to conceive a child later than nature really intended (which turned out to be earlier than either of them expected), and I think they’d both hit me if I cheerfully offered them the “you’re only as old…” line. Abundant eggs – they just aren’t there forever, kids.

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Thank you, thank you!!

I really appreciate it, Cal!!

I'm with you on this...

it’s weird to think of you as 60 or me as (gulp) 40 or Jen as 20… more and more I see how time likes to fuck with us. Just cruisin along and boom, you’re there.

Maybe we never feel our age, whatever that means.

I certainly don’t see you as an ‘elderly parent’. Crotchety maybe… but you won’t fit into the ‘old’ category until you have to go live with Josh. lol.

Will he talk to me THEN?

Well, I don’t really feel old, that’s the thing. I feel like I always have. It think it was Hawk on this thread some where that said something like he was a 20 year old with 40 years of experience.

It’s weird though, ain’t it?

Waynesworld likes summertime...

Age truly is a state of mind.

One can be age 28 and think and act like a 75 year-old. My grandmother used to act younger than my mother. They were often mistaken as sisters.

Just remember, Unc, “time” is a man-made invention.

Hey, Wayne...

Thanks for the god book!

It IS just a number, that’s true.

Waynesworld likes summertime...

Happy Birthday!

You old fart….just kidding! Truly, Unc, your age is what you make it.

I would think you have a lot of good years left in ya, do you want me to ask one of my actuary friends to calculate your life expectancy? I would estimate another 25 to 30 years, so that means you’re only 67% of the way there, not 75%! ;)

Thanks, Wayne!

I like your numbers better than mine. I’m gonna run with them.

Mikhail Nikolayevich If Heaven made someone, earth can find some use for them

Look

pal your name was always in the GR’s book…get used to it. But you have surprised me by showing some sagacity in your dotage; things are what they are, there’s hope for you yet.

Thanks.

I’m glad I’m beginning to measure up to your high standards. I’ve been pretty concerned about that.


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