Its now the 2k5 holidays and my garage has gone back to being a bit cluttered again. The corner with the “unpacked boxes Egyptain pyramid” is the nastiest space hog. The organizing I did before did help. My friend and I did install a metal ceiling ladder (over a couple good beers). I traded him PC repair and maintanence labor (and the beers). We had Christmas things put away in these big green box with red lid tupperware containers. It was nice to hike up into our upper garage storage and find everything in a short time. The upper storage is staying relatively organized. I’m putting metal pre-fab shelves up there too to keep stuff off the floor. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to all. ;o) /ww