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Deep thoughts, to dive or not to dive 2 months ago

I’ve been thinking about something quite a bit lately. Am I capable of deep thinking? Or do I mostly just float on the surface, not being able to dive really deep? I’ve had this floater idea of myself for many years now and sometimes I feel that it hurts me in some way, not being able to think really deeply. This feeling gets even stronger when I’m surrounded by really analytical and philosophical people at the university, I somehow feel that I am below them, not on their level. Heavy thinkers seem to be somehow better than me, in a certain aspect. It feels like I’m lacking something. And I should mention that Juho, my love, is definitely a heavy thinker as well, his mind keeps buzzing constantly and it’s really fascinating to see what comes out.
But on the other hand, am I looking at this from the wrong perspective? Does it really matter if I’m not a really deep person? It’s okay to be “normal” – Juho keeps saying that he feels comforted to know that I’m his link to “the normal world”, heh. Not all people need to be so analytical, so deep, so pensive. Some of us need to be down-to-earth. Some of us can stay quiet, when others discuss complex things. We’re all different, after all, and that’s the way it’s meant to be. That’s the right way.
Also, could I be mistaken: am I in fact capable of deep thinking but I just don’t realize it myself, since I’m so used to thinking that I’m not good at it? This might also be the case, my own perspective might be just twisted. It’s sometimes really hard to correct your own ideas about yourself if they’re slightly off. I should need to get rid of this way of thinking and just accept myself as I am, be it a heavy thinker or not. Because I do sometimes see that I’ve thought about something very carefully; that I have insightful, new thoughts to offer and so on.
Must investigate this thing further.



Comments:

Scarlett tomorrow!

You know

This is merely my opinion, but I see you as a very perceptive girl, you have a high understanding of yourself and the world around you, and you seem to have this ability to live in this world and notice its beauty in even the smallest detail – and that’s a gift. So perhaps you’re not a ‘heavy thinker’ the way you described it up there, but it doesn’t matter: people like that tend to get lost in their own thoughts and ideas and after a while your own mind becomes rather like a prison, and there’s no escape.

You do have deep thoughts, the mere fact that you reflect on yourself shows that you’re capable of deep thinking. Then again, if you’re referring to actual philosophical deep thinking (such as ‘what is life’ and ‘whether we truly exist or not’), well, such discussions can be stimulating at best but if you get too caught up on them, you’ll forget the life happening right now.

Being down-to-earth doesn’t mean you’re not deep. In fact, some ‘deep’ people can be rather pretentious, thinking too highly of themselves merely because they’re ‘philosophical’. There’s only that much Philosophy can teach you, some things you can only learn by living, and you’re doing bloody brilliantly!

And perhaps you just haven’t found the right questions to ask? Some wonder about life, others the existence of the whole universe, some are more interested in what makes a certain person who they are, you catch my drift? There are no set ‘deep thoughts’ one should ponder and, put differently, it doesn’t immediately make you a philosopher if you ask a philosophical question. It’s all about the ability to form links between similar ideas, understand bigger concepts and hold conversations. And you’re more than capable of doing all of that. :)

Just my two cents. :)

emiliakaarina happy poppy

Thank you,

darling, for this wonderful comment of yours! Really, it made me feel very good. :)

I do usually enjoy the way I see the world, how I think and feel about things etc, but sometimes, in certain situations and company, I just fear that I’m lacking something. Like I would be missing some important part that would allow me to participate like the others. But I know that I shouldn’t feel like that, there’s nothing wrong with my own ways.

I did ponder about that myself, too, actually – that I must not be too shallow since I’m in fact thinking about stuff like this. :)
I guess the heavy thinking isn’t really connected to a specific topic or even an area of science etc, it’s a way of thinking to me. A bit different from mine, perhaps; at least that’s how I see it. So it’s not really about what people are thinking about, but how they’re thinking about it. Difficult to explain, I guess, but I hope you get my drift.

I agree with you, it is good to concentrate on life and its happenings and not just be up in the clouds, within one’s mind, unreached. Life does teach us a lot of things and I feel that I’ve already learnt a lot by just living. Thanks again for your words, darling.

That could also be the case, yes. I’ll have to see. Maybe I’ve already found my questions but just don’t realize it yet. :)

Thank you, thank you, thank you! ♥

Scarlett tomorrow!

You’re very welcome, glad my words were of some use (if only to cheer you up). :)

I think I know what you mean, and I can tell you that you’re not the only one. I feel like that sometimes as well. But I wouldn’t worry too much, everyone has a slightly different way of seeing and thinking about things, no two people can ever see exactly eye to eye, at least that’s what I think.

Hope you can find your answers!

emiliakaarina happy poppy

Your words were very useful indeed, dear. ♥ Like always.

That is true, that is true.
There also comes the essential problem within communication – how are we ever supposed to understand each other fully, when all of us have different, personal meanings and ideas for things? :’D I ponder about this quite often, actually. I know there’s no real answer to that, we just have to deal with it and try our best to communicate in a fine manner. It’s just funny somehow.

Thank you, once again! :)

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Addition:

I didn’t mean to belittle my own way of thinking with this entry of mine, no no. I merely wish to figure out if I’m missing something or not. That’s what I still need to figure out, even though I do like my own way, too.
When it comes to education and my studies, doing well in them and especially writing analytical papers – I shall only do my best, as I can’t really do more than that. And I’m sure that it will be enough. :) I’ve done fine so far, for two years, which must be a proof that I’m not lacking something that significant after all.

Maxime is back, for now!

From my point of view...

... you are quite capable of “deep thinking” and you do it your own way. I think you are more of a practical person, that’s all. But you do it well in your field and you’ve proven that you can go beyond the surface many times, at least with me.

I think philosophy is a matter of expressing your thoughts and opinions. The subject itself doesn’t really matter. Talking about existance or stuff like that is only a subject like all the others. But when you can express your opinions and keep a long conversation, with some civilized arguing, and use all the potential of your intelligence to defend your point of view or opinion on anything, that’s deep thinking. It can be on religion, on politics, on economy, on society… but also on movies, music or cooking! It can be anything. You can’t have all the knowledge in every little subject, but you do it very well when you’re talking about something you know, and that fascinates you.

I can tell you, for example, that I am always impressed to listen to you talking about photography. Because the way you see it, you analyze it… I say that’s a kind of deep thinking. :)

Maxime is back, for now!

And I would like to add...

I’ll go a bit with Laura on this. You ARE a very analytical person. Look at how you analyze your own person, for example, and how you put several kinds of goals to improve yourself on different levels. And look what kind of entry you write about yourself, and talk about the way you see yourself. Honestly, I’d never be able to do this, or at least never as well as you do it. To be able to analyze yourself the way you do it, you have to think deeply and philosophically. :)

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Perhaps. On the other hand, even with my goals etc, I don’t feel like I’m really grasping the reality. Like I’m trying very hard, but still it all just keeps slipping away from me, staying out of my reach. I don’t know, I can’t quite explain it. Nevermind.
So I don’t really see myself as “a very analytical person.” But I manage, in any case. :)

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I do agree with you on that: I do the thinking in my own way. I might also be more practical too, yeah. It depends on the perspective.
I guess the biggest problem is that you’re so subjective about your own self, you’re too close to yourself to be objective and analyze things like this well. Oh well.

I see your point, but that’s actually sometimes one of my big problems – I often feel like I have nothing to say about the things others are talking about. I listen to them gladly, but to take part in the conversation sometimes proves impossible for me. I might have something to say, but my ideas can be so hazy that I can’t put them into words. I guess this is the part where I’d need more of those “deep thinking abilities”, or something.
But yeah, I can carry a conversation quite well when it’s about something that I know a lot about and so on.

You think I analyze my photography deeply? Haha, that’s not quite how I see it. I don’t think I sound anything like a professional when I do it, I usually just express my ideas about moods, colours, textures… things like that, that are on the “surface”. They’re just feelings and opinions, nothing heavy I think. :P

I totally agree with Scarlett! Your photos show that you are able to see the beauty in the smallest things around us. I really admire that in you! You seem to be very in touch with your surroundings and notice details that would be easily overlooked for other people. The fact that you took some time to analyze yourself proves you can be a heavy thinker.

Besides heavy thinkers tend to overthink everything in life, and as smart they may seem I’m sure they would want to be more impulsive and down to earth from time to time.

In my opinion it is best to be down to earth about things, but when it really matters and there are some tough decissions to be made it is good to be able to really think about them. Just being able to have deep thoughts about the right things at the right time. Emilia, I think you are very capable of doing this :). Your entrys show that you think about things like yourself, your studies and friends. I would never consider you a shallow person!

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Thank you very much for this comment of yours, dear. ♥ It really warmed my heart. You’re so sweet!

I’m starting to feel that I’m really not so hopeless after all! :D


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