Wildcranberries seems to be back.

Figure out whether I should become a life coach
Cringe

Despite knowing several very smart people who I respect who are coaches (including my own), I have to agree with Martha Beck who says ‘life coaching must surely be one of the cheesiest sounding phenomena to emerge from the twentieth century.’

And so, when I find myself bold enough to even say to other academic people that I’m thinking about changing careers, I say ‘I’m considering training as a psychoanalyst.’ Because I’m still shallow and scared and concerned with what other academics think. ‘Psychoanalyst’ still sounds like someone with intellectual credentials. You know, they publish scholarly papers and stuff.
‘Life coaches’, on the other hand… no official licensing procedure, wildly varying training programs, and you can get an internet diploma in five days. Well, you don’t even need that since anyone can set up shop as a ‘life coach’. And a few of the people who I have come across are not… well, the subtlest and the most sophisticated bananas in a bunch.

In addition, much of the profession seems to be operating like a pyramid scam. Many of the hugely successful coaches seem to make their money training new coaches who then must take further training courses to build their businesses. Obviously the market will be saturated at some point if every coach needs ten current clients to survive.

And yet, some of the happiest memories of my life have been doing coaching and self-coaching with friends. Getting my own coach was one of the best ways I’ve ever spent money. I love the idea and practice of the process. And I like the idea of working with reasonably functional, motivated people. I think counseling people who are struggling with mental illness, addiction and poverty is incredibly important, but I don’t think it’s my path and it’s not what I want to be doing. And looking around me, in the Ivy League, I see a huge number of potential clients. Although, they probably all have therapists already, if my experience in Chicago is to be trusted…

There’s a coach training program by the oldest school in business starting close by in September. Trying to figure out if this is the next step or whether I should get trained as a marriage and family therapist as a prerequisite to psychoanalyst, or to start studying clinical psychology at an extension school, open university style.

No wonder my stomach hurts.



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Absnasm is falling to pieces

Holding comment.

As you might expect, I have stuff to say about this! But I’m off to bed right now, so I’ll add my two pennorth another time. Do feel free to grill me, either publicly or by PM.

Wildcranberries seems to be back.

I would be curious

to know what you think about your training, and how you feel about the career now (I’ve been away for two years and remember you having finished at about that time).

My coach here was trained by the Martha Beck school, which these days means a minimal amount of MB and a lot of Martha Beck master coaches, and she has been just very cautiously critical about the training and the expectations they created in the participants. “If you’ll only apply yourself and get rid of your negative self-talk (another workshop?) and make a vision board (I suspect yet another workshop), you’ll be making $500.000 a year in no time and publishing books and opening your own schools!”

And, of course, it cannot work that way for everyone.

Absnasm is falling to pieces

It can't and it doesn't.

I think I’m actually going to message you privately about some of this since it’s going to get pretty personal! What I will say publicly is that I also no longer call myself a “life coach”, but rather refer to myself as a “personal development coach”. “Life coach” as a moniker has started to feel rather tainted and hokey, and it’s misleading – it gives the impression that you can give people the answers and will tell them what to do, when what you actually do is help them access their inner wisdom and answer their own questions.

Some might say my course has (or had, it no longer runs) a poor reputation amongst some coaches, but this is pure snobbery based on the fact that it didn’t cost a fortune – I trained with a nationally recognised and state-run college of further education (ie somewhere where kids go to do A-levels and vocational courses) rather than with a private coaching training company. In fact it was a great course, which gave me a good bedrock to start from, and suited me fine. it was perhaps less experiential than other courses, because it was all distance learning, but it covered all the bases it needed to, and my own private enthusiasm carried me through because I did lots of extra reading and practice coaching. There was no pressure to attend more courses on top – there were no courses on top. I’m grateful for this, because if there had been I might have been carried away by enthusiasm and spent money I didn’t have.

I’m completely in agreement with your coach the expectations trainers create in students. My course never led me to believe I’d be making easy money hand over fist in the way that some courses do, because it didn’t need to rely on starry-eyed dreams to make as much money as possible from students. But even so it’s easy to get taken in by the promises made by other trainers, and it certainly happened to me. I went on a free weekend course with a very well known national organisation, some of which was a sales pitch. It was charging well over £3000 for their most basic course, plus expenses on top for travelling to a south-coast venue and staying in a hotel there for (if I remember rightly) the ten weekends of their course, but telling people that they’d make their money back “within a few clients”. They never mentioned how difficult it is to actually get clients, and believe me, it’s difficult. Really difficult.

You’re correct also that a lot of coaches aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer. I believe this is also a product of the churn-‘em-out training system, but also of the nature of the work. Many people train as coaches after they’ve been through coaching (as did I, I’m such a cliché) and are in their first flush of post-coaching excitement. Sometimes, being coached, you don’t actually work out what it is you want to do with your life careerwise, but find that the motivational boost to Get Things Done is so exciting that you get carried along in wanting to pass it on to others. So you do wind up with a lot of people whose answer to “I still don’t know what to do with my life” becomes “I’ll become a coach and help other people who don’t know what to do with their life”. This floods the market, often with people who are enthusiastic but unfocused (or flat-out crazy) and not particularly well-read or finessed in their approach. In accordance with the rule of a self-supporting industry, I actually wind up with quite a lot of these people as my own clients – people who trained intending to set up in business but never really did any coaching beyond it. For them, training sometimes ends up being more about their own personal development than it is about being able to help others, and that’s fine, learning to coach is really helpful for anyone – at the very least they can learn to coach themselves.

As you’ve mentioned, it’s a few years since I finished my training (if it ever finishes, really), and truth be told I’m in a much worse position financially than I have ever been! Honestly, although I love coaching, it’s not the field to move into if you want to make a living. Admittedly, I haven’t really properly applied myself to building my private practice, and I certainly haven’t rid myself of limiting beliefs, so on and so forth. I completely cop to that, and part of that has been my own lack of confidence and letting personal issues and matters get in the way. But I have had a regular coaching practice of sorts for 18 months now and with that experience behind me I can say that the most important skill you’ll need if you want to make money from coaching is the ability to market and persuade people to part with their money. Someone once told me a coach spends 80% of their time marketing, and they were underestimating. I also read a statistic which I can’t remember now, but it was something about 95ish% of coaches making less than $20k a year. Again, I believe that! It helps to have an additional source of income – it’s no coincidence that a lot of coaches coach in their spare time and are also in well-paid professions or have well-off spouses that support them. At the moment I’m in the latter category, except he’s not well-off, I just happen to be out of work and unable to claim benefits ;-)

You need to be super-duper resilient and unbelievably confident and unshakeable in your faith that you are good at what you do and deserve to get paid to do it. That also means not being ashamed to do it and to say what you do – I get the feeling if you do decide to go ahead with this you will need to do some work on that and perhaps design a role and name for yourself which you feel happy with. That ties in with FloatingPoint’s point about standing on your own credentials.

It’s a shame really that it’s so hard to market, because I really believe so many people can benefit from coaching, and the world would be a better place if more people would open up to it. I completely understand where you’re coming from wanting to work with happy, motivated people helping them to be happier and more successful. There is genuinely no feeling better than seeing someone make leaps in their confidence, confess their true goals, and improve their ability to achieve practical steps. Every time I have one of those golden clients who responds beautifully to coaching and actually acts on it and gets results inside and out, it makes me feel amazing and it’s all worth it. I wholeheartedly recommend it as a life-enhancing activity, but I’m not sure I’d recommend it as a sole source of income.

The rest I shall update you on privately!

Wow I’ve rambled a lot, sorry. I didn’t realise how much I’d written.

just as you can distinguish between various coaches

I imagine your potential clients will be able to.

Some occupational titles give you a pretty good sense what you are going to get, right out of the box. Others, less so. This is one that really doesn’t tell you much about the person or their services.

You’ll have to stand on your own abilities much more than the occupation’s flakey credentialing systems in this area.

Just don’t participate or buy into (or refer to, if you try a workshop and think little of it) anyone’s “training” that you don’t believe actually enhances your empathetic, intellectual abilities to assist others.

This seems like a potentially excellent job for a freelance philosopher / writer.

Would psychoanalytic training help you get where you want to be skill and knowledge-wise, even if you decide not to practice psychoanalysis afterwards, or would that be a diversion from your goal?

oops – sorry, I didn’t fully read the last bit of your entry (phone call interrupted and I started firing off the stuff I was leaping to.)

Wildcranberries seems to be back.

When I was

agonizing over a decision about which training I should take (year vs 9 months, remote or on-site, ideology a or paradigm b…) my own coach gently pointed out that I would probably be fine with whatever training I got, and that most of the skills I’d use would anyway come from my experience, studies and reading.

In the tentative plan I’m forming now, I will train as a coach this upcoming academic year, and then somehow find enough clients to support me while I study some more.

The funny thing is, I used to hate psychoanalysis with a vengeance, or what I knew of it, Freud’s sexist paradigms and some ubertheoretical French stuff. But I’m thinking there should be space for feminist psychoanalysis, as well as for combining what I’ve been doing this far with, you know, actually helping people instead of boring them to death. I think having become somewhat older and wiser by becoming more broken (open), I like the idea inherent in psychoanalysis that becoming truly mature doesn’t mean becoming somehow inanely ‘happy’ but accepting that life and us also contain darkness that we don’t need to be so scared of.

On the other hand, there’s also this newish therapy paradigm called ACT which says and believes much the same, without the need for eight years of training…

I've stopped using the

term life coach because people, especially here in California, use that title in so many different ways. I’m not marketing my coaching right now, but when I do, I use the terms Intrinsic Coach (I took a course and that’s a registered coaching modality) or, lately, Clarity Consultant. You can call it what works best with your target audience. There have been respected business coaches for decades, but they’re smart enough to call themselves consultants. If you called yourself a consultant or Academic Coach or Career Coach, it would be clear that what you offer is something different than therapy.

this is a horribly written reply. i hope some sense is coming through

Wildcranberries seems to be back.

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Yeah, I think I’d be called a certified professional co-active coach after this training. I know MB called what she did ‘life design’ before the ‘life coach’ title was kinda thrust on her, and I like the idea of just creating for yourself what describes you best.

“Academic coach” is apparently what people who offer tutoring for school pupils (before college) call themselves these days, and all the more power to them. I guess my personal problem is that I do think coaching, to be the most valuable, is about much more than just work or career, but about life as a whole. And I wouldn’t even want to be the kind of coach who gets paid (admittedly, a lot) by a business to make their middle managers perform better work-wise, or the kind of coach who neglects goal-examining to focus on goal-setting.

As an aside, I don’t know anything about your training or if you’ve written here more about it and what you want to do with it, but I’m perfectly sure you will be fabulously super as a coach and change many, many lives for the better. You really have intrinsic talent for it.


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