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Nice guys finish last, cos they get their women off first.

I labour under the assumption, backed up by decades of evidence that any women who calls you “nice” will NEVER EVER want to actually fuck you. I know sounds crass, girls have you ever called some one you want to sleep with nice?

If you get called nice after a date is it just time to bail?

How good is it to get hit on by some one who is largely awesome (cos I am) but you don’t really want?



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I think...

...the reason why the “bad” guys seem to get more women is that they risk rejection much more often than most of the “good” guys do. They get rejected much more often, too, but because they try so much, of course they’re going to get more “yes”es, too. Someone has said that to succeed, double your failure rate, and I think that’s great advice. :)

I know you didn’t ask that – I just mentioned that because I know I and most of my female friends love nice guys. They just quite rarely approach us and make the first move.

I’ve only ever dated nice, sweet, caring guys, and when I call someone nice, that definitely doesn’t mean I’m not interested in him. Of course it doesn’t depend on the word choice alone but on the context – I’ve rejected some guys by starting “You’re so nice/sweet/wonderful, but…”, but in that case it’s been obvious that I’m rejecting them.

Nice Guys

This reminds me of Jon. Jon is this 19 year old kid who LOVES me. (Well okay, he’s at least infatuated) and Kat is like—no way dude! I’d never date that guy!

And my friend and coworker, Miss Tayla, was like, “But he’s nice” to which I responded,

“He’s a bad worker!”

I don’t want to fuck him, as you crassly say, because he is a child and his face is like sandpaper.

Less to do with his niceness, I’d say.

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gottawonder Loves her tortoise!

Well

There are two catagories of men women sleep with, the ones that are hot and sexy, but not really long-term material (like they drink too much, or they are players, or unstable), and the ones they really like and might want a long term relationship with.

I think I may have called a man nice if I didn’t know much about him yet, but liked him. If a woman still only says you are nice after a couple of months, then she likely only sees you as a friend.

This may seem like an odd question, but how long do you give a woman to sleep with you before you decide it isn’t worth the work? Why would you have to bail on her if she doesn’t sleep with you? Could you live with being her friend?

Do you have to have some kind of sex after just a couple of dates? Do you expect it on the first date? Do you find yourself getting angry because she isn’t sleeping with you (women pick up on that one, and they feel quite uncomfortable with it).

This is kind of some insight into how women feel, it really sucks to always have that pressure coming from a date, that feeling of sex being the whole point of being out together.

In truth, most women like to feel a strong connection, to have great conversation, to have fun where you go together, and it is actually that feeling that we are with the right person that makes us want to have sex.

I usually did know fairly quickly if I was attracted to someone or not, but that didn’t mean I would sleep with them. I actually liked to do stuff together, and not just going out to a bar. I liked meeting for lunch, talking, going for a bike ride, or to an art gallery. Things that reflected my interests. If I only went out for supper with someone,or a club, I got bored. I would rather see his pottery, or his work shop, or meet his dog.

Try doing something with her that reflects your interests, or hers.

If a woman gets the feeling that all the talk and meals is just a formality to get to the sex, then it won’t likely happen. We have to genuinely feel like you just love being around us, and that we have common interests.

You could try asking her back to your place after a while, and if she doesn’t go for it, she likely sees you as a friend.

Right

I’m going to use two examples, A and B niether of whom I’ve slept with so NO it’s about sex completely.
This may seem like an odd question, but how long do you give a woman to sleep with you before you decide it isn’t worth the work? A) told me I on the first date she wouldn’t sleep with me that night.
I thought this was great because the pressure on my part to pick signals etc was off. We have to decide when and if to make a move and risk a slap. Why would you have to bail on her if she doesn’t sleep with you? Short answer because friendship and relationships are different, you have one person for a relationship so makes sense to only focus on one at a time. If you’re halfway to being in love with some one B) who has shagged your mates and you just can’t get out of your head after five months, and is saying she’s single. Could you live with being her friend? I was in love with my best friend for three years got pretty good at it just don’t like it much.

Do you have to have some kind of sex after just a couple of dates? Don’t have to do anything, but again is relationship girl or am I wasting my time while some one better is there? Do you expect it on the first date? Depends, it’s a negotiation between two people I’m not a robot you adapt to some one else’s needs and wants. Do you find yourself getting angry because she isn’t sleeping with you (women pick up on that one, and they feel quite uncomfortable with it). A) No happy to just talk cos known her all of three days. B) five months and she shags every one but me that actually pisses me off yes.

And they both called me nice.

gottawonder Loves her tortoise!

I understand

that it’s different to try being friends with someone once you have already viewed them as a romantic interest. I get that.

I also understand that it makes more sense to move on and put your effort into meeting someone else once a person has established that they don’t see you as relationship material.

Maybe you should stand back a little bit from equating sex with meaningful relationship. Sex is more sort of a by-product of intimacy, but it is not a relationship on its own.

With the woman who shags everyone but you, you do have to understand that she isn’t OBLIGATED to have sex with you. That said, it might be useful from a research point of view to come right out and ask her (nicely and objectively) why she doesn’t see you as shag material. She might give you some valuable insight. It’s also possible that she really likes you as a friend, and doesn’t want to ruin it by having sex. She might actually find you to be an oasis of friendship and safety in a world that expects her to shag them.

With the girl you’ve known all of three days, umm… geez, give it some time. Treat her like you’ve got all the time in the world.

Without sex it's friendship

Cos the sex is what marks a relationship off from friendship. It’s the physical intimacy that makes it special end of story really, cos I have female friends I love but none of them are girlfriends. I’d crawl across hot coals on bloody stumps for two of them but they’re still just friends because I never slept with them. You have one person who sleep with and she is the special one, guess I’m just shallow like that.

gottawonder Loves her tortoise!

Right.

You just seemed really focused on the sex part.

Maybe you just need to meet more people, and make it clear that you are looking for a relationship.

This might not seem romantic or spontaneous, but really work on just getting out there.

Maybe work on presentation, ask some women friends about your clothes and hair and such. I don’t mean that you should present in a way that isn’t authentic, but let’s say you wear a lot of jeans and t-shirts. Maybe you could wear a better fitting pair of jeans, and a t-shirt in a flattering fit and especially good color for you. Take your women friends with you, and go shopping.

Maybe it seems cheesy, but dating sites and services must work for someone, because there are indeed many couples that meet through them. At least you know that these are women who want romantic relationships, not more friends.

Ask all of your friends if they know anyone they think you might like. It doesn’t have to feel like a set up, you could just all go for supper together.

Join a club that reflects your interests, if you meet a woman there, you will have something in common.

This might seem cheesy too, but smile more and make small talk when you are in a store, or at the gym. Work on looking approachable. I’ve gone on dates with men I met in stores and coffee shops. I actually reconnected with a man I met once through friends, in an ice cream shop. Then I ran into him again at a folk festival. We’re married now.

Outdoor music festivals and such are a great way to meet women. So is taking a college class just for fun.

If you have a dog, walk it more. You will meet women this way. Or, walk a friend’s dog.

It’s just math. If you only meet five women in a year, what are the odds that one of them will be right for you? If you can meet fifty women in a year, you greatly improve your odds.

ooamaimomooo This life is your life, gotta live like it's your life.

Nice guys...

..are the only guys that really do it for me.<3

dragonfly35 Hangin' in there.

I'm marrying

a very, very nice guy. He’s a keeper.

Sex? He got that too. So did some not-so-nice guys, but none of them is getting a ring. ;)

I do believe my attitude towards nice guys may have changed in the past fifteen years or so of my dating life. At some point, I realized I was worth it.

When I call a man “nice”, you really have to listen to my intonation. There’s the hopeful intonation and then there’s the death knell intonation. The term “nice” in and of itself does not mean someone doesn’t have a chance with me, but I do occasionally use it as part of my polite rejection toolkit.

Curious

I would usually say that it’s a bit of a nail in the coffin to call a guy nice. But I had a change of heart this past week.

I went out with a guy for the first time, had a really great time, and want to see him again. I’m a little bubbly about it, nothing crazy just…excited? It’s a good thing, regardless.

I told my friends about him, the first thing out of my mouth was: “He’s a nice guy.” I didn’t mean to say it, it just came out. But then I realized, I really meant it AND I still wanted to see him again. He is a nice guy, but this is the closest anyone has come to getting my affections in a while.

So would I fuck him? Not right now, no. Like I said, first time out with him and that’s just not my style. But it’s definitely not off the table. .

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hmmm

the last guy i dated i called him a nice guy and he seemed so, untill he turned into a complete a-hole. took me for 6 – that one. ive also dated a few other nice guys, and they just didnt work out not cos they were too nice, but because of other things.i will take nice any time of the day tho. i dont want a bad boy. i would sleep with a nice guy if i was attracted to him and liked his personality and in love etc and have done so. my days of dating bad boys are long over. i dont need the stress.

when i describe someone as nice, it doesnt mean they are boring, or not attractive, or not worth my interest. if anything i prefer the nice guys. however that doesnt mean i want some one boring and serious or blinkered. jsut someone who is confident and funny, but also a bit naughty, doesnt take life too seriously, a bit crazy, but nice. he must not be a a-hole to me and other people. when i say nice, i mean the guy is likeable by all. jsut a good guy all round. being nice doesnt mean boring or uncool. confidence and wit is everything.

Can we go out for a walk and fish and chips on the beach sometime?

Kidding, don’t even know who you are. But maybe I can find a woman like you here. The search continues thanks for the pick me up (about to be reported to the robots now).

huh

whats being reported ???


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