Spend less time online and more time on life
Help needed!!! 3 years ago

I used to have a clanky old PC and dial-up modem so going on the internet was slow, frustrating and costly. I’ve now got a shiny new laptop with constant wifi broadband which seems to have cast a magnetic effect on me. I hope that the novelty will wear off soon so that I can get back to having real interaction with real people rather than this virtual life I seem to have been sucked into. No offence intended 43ers.



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Make the virtual real

The virtual/real dichotomy is part of the source of the problem. Make your interactions online more “real”, and you won’t feel that your investments online will be detracting from your experiences offline.

Another interesting element, is many people feel less inhibited online, so they let go and open up. Which gives them an experience of being more real, which is an experience of more life. Not less life. So the other help is to bring the authenticity you might experience online into your offline experiences.

The above paragraphs are just a thought. I’d be interested in hearing about your experiences resolving this one. I don’t think the novelty will wear off, it’s more like you will strike a satsifactory balance once you work through the real issues. My experience is that a direct assault on this problem will just leave you frustrated.

Hi Hajush.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my plea. However my “appeal” was really rhetorical. I don’t in truth have a problem as I do enjoy the being online and the ability to have interaction with, for instance, you; someone I’d have never had the opportunity to meet in my “real life”. I do indeed acknowledge this as an expansion of my real life (after all what ever we do is our real life).
One of the things that we Brits tend to do is a bit of ironic self-deprecation, that is make out we are a bit helpless; in our warped minds we think this is funny. However as with all “humour” there is an element of truth in it, but no so much as it worries me other than the time spend time researching and responding when I ought to be working on things that I get paid for.

Hello Geoveo, I guess I was going way beyond what would be helpful for you, but I just couldn’t stop myself. It just seemed too good of an opportunity to say some of the things I’ve wanted to say to the 99+ folks with the goal “stop wasting time on the internet” and similar goals. Especially when you (jokingly) invited me to pipe up with your “Help needed!!!” plea.

Please forgive me for using your partial humor post as a soapbox. I’m a big fan of British humor having been raised on PBS rebroadcasts of Monty Python, Yes Minister, Dave Allen at Large, Benny Hill, and others I can’t remember. And I’ve had several friends from Great Britain, including my first best friend, Duval. Though I’ve noticed before that my response doesn’t always seem to communicate when I get it. My humor is also warped by my Hawaiian, New York, Prep School, geek-tech, Japanese, Portuguese, Catholic-Baptist-former Agnostic fringe outlook, which I’m sure doesn’t make it easier. Cheers!

The beat goes on.

Hi Hajush. Thanks again for taking time to reply.

One of the problems with text only interaction is that we only have the words to go by and communication is more than just words. In verbal discussion subtle meaning can be implied by intonation and non-verbal sounds (a cough or chuckle or “huh”) which carry slight qualifiers of the words, these can’t easily be included on the page (or screen). So the message can often be read as more worthy or serious than it was intended to be. This is one reason why books are so powerful and authoritative, and humour falls flat on its face when it has to be explained.
In face to face conversation even further meaning can be conveyed by face and body language, a wink or smile or a frown can give off other indications that the words might not be everything that is being said.

That I think is one of the reasons that I consider the online world “unreal”. I know that the counter-side is, as you rightly said, that it does allow you to be more adventurous and open in what you say as any repercussions are likely to feel less personal or even less hurtful (I think we all must have said something to someone that we instantly regretted, at least I have).
There, now I’ve had a little ramble.

To a small-town lad from the centre of England your background seems very exotic, this is indeed one of the more positive sides of the internet, the ability to strike-up conversations with people that I’d never have met in the “real world”.
Power to you.

Exotics

British people are exotic to me. We’re all mutts here in the states, I don’t feel that special here, just dirt common wierd.

I agree with all you say about the “unrealness” and that so much communication doesn’t properly come through. At the same time, my nearly 30 years in the computer field have shown me that many times interactions can be more real through the net. So much of how we interact with each other is often just noise to put others off the scent. Like that old Eagles song, “Looking for a lover that won’t blow my cover, it’s so hard to find.” People often forget to put up the smokescreen online. And when they do, the signal to noise ration goes down so fast, most people can detect it rapidly. When we’ve got a voice transmission, or face to face, it’s so easy to distract oneself with the grand show that our co-communicator has developed over a lifetime. Much harder to do with written or email communications.

But the truth, it can be pretty easy to get into misunderstandings with email. I haven’t found it very productive to arbitrate or negotiate through conflicts online at all, especially in a public forum. You get a forest fire (flame war) very fast. Best to do that on the phone or better yet in person. Which unfortunately doesn’t tend to happen for folks who have no other relationship than online. So once such an online relationship goes south, it tends to stay there. It’s one reason I like 43T, the tone of this website tends to avoid fighting and flame wars, since we’re supporting each others goals.


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