on Roxi’s goal, but it won’t let me. Maybe she’s blocked me?

Whatever happended to the freedom of speech he always harps on about?

Here’s an interesting quote: -

“If you think like WE do…say the things WE say are alright…then you have complete freedom of speech. If not, we’re gonna find ways of punishing you and shutting you up.

Can you guess who said it? He forgot to add “or block you”.

Although is it a good thing that we “assholes” and “bitches” are being rounded up into one place?

It does make it easier to gas or nuke us – I’m just saying.

Thanks so much for all you’ve written, and for the heartfelt welcome! It seems we’re in very good company, indeed.

I became aware of Enore’s anti-muslim rants, long ago, but didn’t want to give him the satisfaction of having a row with a middle easterner, so I kept my silence, until now. He seems to thrive on attention, and I thought the worst thing that could happen to him would be to be ignored. I naively thought everyone else would do the same, as soon as they discovered his ugly underbelly (not that it’s so well-hidden to be rightfully called an underbelly). I even blocked him, back in the day, thinking it meant I wouldn’t see his posts (discovering otherwise was quite the bummer, as you can imagine).

I have sometimes wondered what the hell could have happened to make this man so hateful, and I’ve drawn the same conclusion you have. Most people have something beyond themselves to give their lives meaning. All he has is part of himself: his child, his girlfriend, his union. He’s so resentful towards anyone with a greater purpose that he (as my grandmother would say) pisses all over the things that other people hold sacred. He did that with John Lee’s goal about feeding the needy, posting vulgarity in the middle of a noble effort. He also appeared in a Nazi uniform, somewhere else, calling for the return of gas chambers. Now, he’s telling people that they have no right to care about Iran unless they’re both citizens and residents. It seems he expects us all to apologize for caring about people beyond ourselves.

Now that you’ve found Cookie’s and my contributions to Enore’s thread, on our own feeds, you can see for yourself that what we wrote isn’t accurately portrayed by Enore and “Artie’s” referrals to our posts (i.e. her diatribe about freedom of speech, and their accusations of “name-calling”). You’ll note they seem to think name-calling includes the application of unflattering (yet accurate) descriptions to people they like. They certainly can’t rightfully use the “you struck first” argument with me, anyhow. Ethnically, I am not only Persian, but a Turk and a Jew. I am politically liberal. I am Catholic. I am Canadian. Enore had thrown a thousand filthy names my way before I uttered a single word in reply.

I did not write to his thread to defend myself (which is the reason I attacked him only on muslim-bashing grounds); I have a proud heritage that defends itself. I also didn’t write to defend my muslim family members or my muslim friends who aren’t on 43 Things, as they really couldn’t give a rat’s ass what this nobody thinks of them. I wrote only for Jiana and Saara. It comes far too late, and I’m ashamed and very sorry for that, but I wanted to defend them, in a way, at last. They made this site a better place. We all lost something, when they left, and we only have ourselves to blame for it. I’m so very sorry that I was so foolish to think that we could all tacitly agree to ignore this spiteful, old man, and make him disappear. The only way to fight him and his ilk is to really fight them, it seems.

Anyhow, it’s great to meet you, Revenge of Nude Freedom. You’re the sort of friend I’d want in my corner, and, hey, I can thank Enore for arranging it so that we could meet! Thanks, Enore!

Membership to the club is somewhat exclusive, but seemingly easy to obtain. Roxi and I didn’t even need to ask, and were ushered in with VIP tickets.

All you need to do is ignore Uncle Enore’s interpretation of free speech (the do as I say, not as I do version), and engage him in a knowledgable and contrary way on one of his hateful rants. Then hey presto, Bob’s your Uncle. And Enore isn’t.

Sorry, I haven’t been receiving notifications, so I’ve missed quite a few replies to this thread.

Uncle Enore and I have never been friends, so he’s not losing anything by blocking me. I would never be friends with a person who’s voiced such disgusting views about Muslims, anyhow.

I think he blocked us both because I remember something he’d thought everyone had forgotten. I’d been expecting him to defend it by calling it a joke (not that that would have excused anything, considering it would have been a really stupid, callous, unfunny joke), but instead he prefers to deny it, altogether.

I think you’re so soft and sweet that you’re more likely to see those attributes in others: not only him, but me, too. I’m not so sweet. War hardens people. I wasn’t afraid of Khomeini, and I’m not afraid of this little, old man, either.

Thank you so much for posting Funtash, and sorry for the very late reply.

“Unfortunately,” I’ve been too busy to bother really saying much. He’s adding to his lies, now, saying that he’d posted against the government of Iran, rather than the people. Right. And that Cookie and I had misinterpreted his statements, as a result of our own bias. Well. Now that he’s already blocked me, once, though, I’m not going back to his thread. He’s shown that he can embarrass himself, without my having to point it out, so I’ll just leave him to it.

Yes, he does seem to be a beloved friend to those in his inner circle, and they do seem to think that it doesn’t matter how he treats others, as long as he’s good to them. They know the sort of friend they’re getting. I do think, however, that even the most selfish girl will eventually weary of a guy who takes her out and fawns all over her, if he’s rude to the waitstaff.

Thanks again for being so kind as to write. I appreciate very much that you’ve written to show that you understand and care.

And, you’re right, he’s not the first person to put down others in order to feel bigger, himself. Thankfully, as you’ve pointed out, people on this site tend to be out to improve themselves and this world, so their focus is much more likely to be positively-oriented. They’re also more likely to be happy; happy people don’t cultivate blanket hatreds.

Thanks for writing, Kalibebti. I appreciate every word everybody’s written, in support and/or comfort. You’ve all shown me that people do, indeed, care, when others are attacked unfairly – even when “others” are people they’ve never met.