OMG!
Yeah, I know it’s been well documented on here the mutual dislike of me and Enore.
And yeah, I do occasionally find myself agreeing with him, and he has admitted to the same.
But, truthfully at times he has been the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black.
He’s accused me of lying in the past, and for as much as I dislike him, I have never once told a lie about him. He has however on occasion either lied about me, or presented false accusations about me (his own, or from third parties.) as being facts, while have little or no knowledge of the situation.
He says I can’t stand anyone disagreeing with me, no not true, but he on occasion has had shit fits over other disageeing with him.
And for a guy who’s 60 plus years old, he has a glaring problem with maturity. He’s like this 10 year old, who just can never get enough attention at times.
I can kind of deal with him being a rebel, or a non-conformist, or an anti-establishment hippie, or call it what you will, and at times that can even be admirable, but what sickens me about the guy besides the very on purpose stereotypes he flings around, and the very on purpose contrary nature of the guy, and some of the other atrocious things he’s posted over the years, is his lack of having any anything sacred in his life. There’s just so little in life that he sanctifies or he has any sensitivity about, or that he holds as having any real value. I mean with the exception of his daughter and on another level Serenity, I’m really hard pressed to come up with anything at all that the guy values.
He has on occasion tried to paint me out as this argumentative villain, always looking for a fight. But by and large, most of the stinks I’ve had with anyone on this site, have been with him.
And he can bitch and whine all he wants about how negative I am in talking about him, but by comparison, he has posted far, far, far, far, far more negative stuff about me, than I ever have about him, on many occasions, it’s even come in the form of dissing me, just for the sake of dissing me, so he can continue with his drama king show pony act. And his comments aimed at me, have been far nastier than anything I’ve ever said to me, in some cases nastier than I’d ever say to anyone.
I’ve never understood why so many people like the guy. Heck, I’ve often thought 43T would be a better place without him in it.
And I get accused of not being willing to be friends with anyone who associates with him, and that’s simply not true. I have friends on here, that are friends of his as well, some of them for whatever reason think he’s just swell. I can tolerate that, but where I have no choice but to draw the line, is when people are practically tearing his pants off to kiss his ass. When that happens, then people just have to find themselves a new friend, because it ain’t gonna be me.
And you’re comments about Artemis, are spot on! I think her life would cease to exist, if she didn’t have Enore to fawn over.
So, you’ve got me curious about what made him block you? BTW, did they discontinue super cheers? Because that option isn’t showing for me today. Hell, I’d like to super cheer it, and give you the secret hand shake, and welcome you to the blocked by Enore club. AFAIK, and according to his claims, I’m the only other person he has blocked.
But, let me say, Welcome, Welcome!!!!! We have awesome kool-aid and cookies, and the water is warm, so feel free to dive in.
I must, must, must join you on this goal, if for no other reason, so the goal will have 2 people having accomplished it.
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Is there a membership fee?
Although is it a good thing that we “assholes” and “bitches” are being rounded up into one place?
It does make it easier to gas or nuke us – I’m just saying.
BTW
Here’s a quick primer on just what constitutes name-calling, for anyone who needs it (you know who you are):
When I call someone an “insipid, little lapdog,” the first two words are called adjectives, and the last one is a metaphor. If I replace the last word with a word that’s considered to be insulting but has no real descriptive value (i.e. a “name”), such as a noun referring to a random barn animal (let’s say “cow,” for example) or a part of the female anatomy (take another monosyllabic word that begins with c), then THAT is name-calling. Got it?
I do feel honoured, I must say.
Thanks so much for all you’ve written, and for the heartfelt welcome! It seems we’re in very good company, indeed.
I became aware of Enore’s anti-muslim rants, long ago, but didn’t want to give him the satisfaction of having a row with a middle easterner, so I kept my silence, until now. He seems to thrive on attention, and I thought the worst thing that could happen to him would be to be ignored. I naively thought everyone else would do the same, as soon as they discovered his ugly underbelly (not that it’s so well-hidden to be rightfully called an underbelly). I even blocked him, back in the day, thinking it meant I wouldn’t see his posts (discovering otherwise was quite the bummer, as you can imagine).
I have sometimes wondered what the hell could have happened to make this man so hateful, and I’ve drawn the same conclusion you have. Most people have something beyond themselves to give their lives meaning. All he has is part of himself: his child, his girlfriend, his union. He’s so resentful towards anyone with a greater purpose that he (as my grandmother would say) pisses all over the things that other people hold sacred. He did that with John Lee’s goal about feeding the needy, posting vulgarity in the middle of a noble effort. He also appeared in a Nazi uniform, somewhere else, calling for the return of gas chambers. Now, he’s telling people that they have no right to care about Iran unless they’re both citizens and residents. It seems he expects us all to apologize for caring about people beyond ourselves.
Now that you’ve found Cookie’s and my contributions to Enore’s thread, on our own feeds, you can see for yourself that what we wrote isn’t accurately portrayed by Enore and “Artie’s” referrals to our posts (i.e. her diatribe about freedom of speech, and their accusations of “name-calling”). You’ll note they seem to think name-calling includes the application of unflattering (yet accurate) descriptions to people they like. They certainly can’t rightfully use the “you struck first” argument with me, anyhow. Ethnically, I am not only Persian, but a Turk and a Jew. I am politically liberal. I am Catholic. I am Canadian. Enore had thrown a thousand filthy names my way before I uttered a single word in reply.
I did not write to his thread to defend myself (which is the reason I attacked him only on muslim-bashing grounds); I have a proud heritage that defends itself. I also didn’t write to defend my muslim family members or my muslim friends who aren’t on 43 Things, as they really couldn’t give a rat’s ass what this nobody thinks of them. I wrote only for Jiana and Saara. It comes far too late, and I’m ashamed and very sorry for that, but I wanted to defend them, in a way, at last. They made this site a better place. We all lost something, when they left, and we only have ourselves to blame for it. I’m so very sorry that I was so foolish to think that we could all tacitly agree to ignore this spiteful, old man, and make him disappear. The only way to fight him and his ilk is to really fight them, it seems.
Anyhow, it’s great to meet you, Revenge of Nude Freedom. You’re the sort of friend I’d want in my corner, and, hey, I can thank Enore for arranging it so that we could meet! Thanks, Enore!
Damn, I'm out of cheers.
I’m proud to be your husband.
I've got no cheers, either.
But I got you, babe. And I’m really lucky for that and pretty damned proud to be your wife, too.
you two are awesome
WHY am I not subscribed to you?
Remedying that…NOW!
You too, RONF. I don’t want to miss any block party fun.
I have found faith again in 43 Things.
This site will always be very special to me, but it had become a place that I had found myself with less and less interest in visiting. A lot of the people whom I considered friends hardly used the site anymore, and many more had simply deleted their accounts and moved on.
I’ve seen recently that there are still people here, new and old, that I would like to interact with, learn from, and eventually call friend (if not already).
You are one of those new people and I subcribed to you recently, too, because you’re pretty awesome yourself.
Yeah, I guess Enore inadvertently helped turn a negative into some positives....(well, indirectly and inadvertently.)
I hear you, and I agree with you very much.
During our brief truce (and the truce why my idea, I really didn’t expect it to last, it wasn’t unconditional, and if anything it was an attempt on my part to at least try to better understand the guy.) Well, I posted about feeding the hungry people in the world, and he retorted with, “Or we could just let them all starve.” Then when I questioned him about it, he insisted that he was serious!!!!! Seriously, I can’t make this up, nor would I want to.
And his bigoted insults, I feel like you, it bothers me, because it’s like I can see the people he’s attacking. He attacks muslims, and I see this beautiful Sufi friend of mine. He uses as an avatar, a “lawn jockey” of a “black” person with overly dark skin, and overly white lips, and I think of my black friends on here.
And when he insulted the mentally ill, I just about wanted to book a flight to Stockton, and personally flatten the guy out like a pancake, I have a diagnosis, my soulmate has a diagnosis, and I know many people (some of whom are good friends.) who have mental health issues. I just wanted to kill him when he posted that.
I think it’s good to take a stand, but at the same time, knowing that he thrives on attention, and if you criticize him, he will often do it 10 times more, and 10 times worse. So, I guess if you make a strong enough stand, that you can remember it, and take pride in doing it, but with the balance of not making him feel “encouraged”.
And yeah, at times I’ve felt a tad sorry for him, wondering what led to him being the way he is.
But, I’ve noticed that his “friends” fall into different categories. His most vile stuff, usually only draws the usual sick people, and sychophants (sp.?) with no other life. I can at least count on some of his friends not to endorse his rubbish. I have on a couple of occasions been shocked by those who have, though. I won’t mention any names (at least not publicly.) but one person I lost some respect for, after her brown nosing of him. Another person (who I think has deleted her account for about the 4th time, and AFAIK, is still inactive.) once said to him, “Tell me about the muslims.” and when I responded to her saying “please don’t encourage him.” she had a hissy fit, telling me if I didn’t like what she said I could unsubscribe and/or block her, so I did both. And no it wasn’t Artemis, it was a certain woman from Georgia.
I’ve given up on reporting him, I’ve tried that approach a few times, and to no avail. One time they just warned him, and deleted a few of his pix. If he gets neighborhood watched, he’ll just get defended and get to keep his account, same as always. One of the Robots I reported him to once, even got an attitude with me about it, I don’t know if he was in a bad mood that day, or if he figures, he should stay, because it gives this site hits or something. He even said he wasn’t crazy about the guy, despite saying I was “nagging the robots.” So, I don’t bother talking to him anymore, I followed his advice to direct my concerns to my “favorite robot” after that, but unfortunately Daniel Spils will be leaving us.
Well, to end this on a positive note, I think most of the people on here are good, some I would even say great or wonderful.
I hear you.
One thing I will say in Enore’s defense is that in, my opinion, he is not a racist. Sure, sometimes he uses inappropriate avatars, but I don’t think he has any problem with the colour of one’s skin.
I agree, however, that most of the people here are positive, as you would expect from a site dedicated to improving ourselves and the world around us.
His views on race are a bit confusing....
At best, he might not be a racist, in the way that one could say Archie Bunker wasn’t a racist. But like Archie Bunker, he flings the stereotypes around. Enore at times has been more extreme than Archie Bunker.
He (Enore) did tell me once that he opposes “political correctness” (well, actually he’s said that many times.) and that the avatars,etc. are his way of combating that. He’s said he’s not a racist, but he won’t discourage it, because he “doesn’t want to tell other people how to think.”
He’s said he would fight for example against racial groups being barred admittance to anything, and that he has fought against that in the past.
Now, I’m not giving the guy a big endorsement, or even a little pat on the back, but I think he was being sincere when he said that.
LL is EXCITED! Matty got his visa!!
Not sure I agree with you entirely.
Regarding your first paragraph, that is. :-)
Just because someone’s intolerance or discrimination isn’t based on the colour of another’s skin, doesn’t mean that they’re not racist.
The UN doesn’t appear to make any distinction between racial and ethnic discrimination. Therefore, if a person makes discriminatory remarks against an entire group of people based upon race or ethnicity (e.g., if I say “Americans”, thereby implying ‘all Americans’), that’s racism. Add religious discrimination/prejudice/intolerance (whichever fits best) to the pot, and there we have a recipe for something with a decidedly nasty aftertaste.
Totally with you on your second paragraph, though.
