I know, I’m a hideous person… that is not new information. Yes, it’s a game. No, I don’t want her… in the least way.
Part of a chat is below. Nothing was changed except names, everything is a direct quote.
I’m curious if this is worth hanging in for the entertainment value, or if, as my BFF suggests, I need to get the fuck out of Dodge.
Manatee: Just wanted to touch base. Say hello. Needed to see how I could handle it.
me: handle it? like im some volatile chemical?
Manatee: No
me: haha
Manatee: I am the potential volatile chemical. Where you are concerned I am not rational or stable
me: rephrase that please it didnt make sense
Manatee: When it comes to you, I am not rational or stable.
me: how do you figure?
Manatee: I should never have pursued you romantically for as long as I did…there was and still is a piece of me that didn’t, couldn’t let go…and that is really not healthy. My body reacts to you physically, and mentally…in extremes…no middle ground
me: sounds to me like a little melodrama. i am spicy and you are too used to mild. lets not embellish so much
Manatee: Not embellishing. Just saying what I feel.
me: even so, i dont see the problem
Manatee: Not one person in my life accepts my willingness to talk to you.
me: you knew that a long time ago. they feel like they are “protecting” lil ol innocent naive unable-to-self-manage Manatee
i robbed them of that power by giving it back to YOU
and they hate because of it
SOME TIME AFK ELAPSES
me: so what were we talking about, i forget
Manatee: the fact that the people in my life hate you
me: yet i dont hate them. so where lies the problem?
Manatee: Ryan. I have tried countless times to explain to them that you don’t hate them, and that you are who you are…but they don’t trust you
You hurt me, and to them that makes you satan
and the whole erik thing
me: the erik thing… please. i cant control the fact that you are a weak doormat
i tried to help there
Manatee: They don’t agree with that assessment
me: course not, they are blinded by their emotions and hatred
i wouldnt expect them to at this point
me: i cant believe that you are not in the least bit amused
Manatee: It isn’t amusing for me ryan…
me: and that you could not see all that i have and on some level continue to do for you
Manatee: There are pieces of me that are forever changed. And I thank you for that.
me: but have they?
that is what i question
Manatee: Yes. There are some lines in the sand on things like privacy and personal space.
me: i may have just shuffled a mask into your repertoire, instead of changing the essence i changed the appearance
Manatee: When you love someone…or care about them…you have to love them for their essence.
me: not true
there are always concessions
and if you believe otherwise, then you are further injecting your lenses with rose tint
Manatee: Concessions are things like, I really don’t like that you leave the toothpaste cap off, or We can see the movie you want today, and next week we see the one I want
me: no, that is everyday life. those are considerations, not concessions.
me: and you have nothing further to say?
Manatee: No, Just typing some things
I needed to change to fit a mold. The things that I expected…the fidelity that I wanted, is something that is granted in a relationship.
But like you said…nothing ever happened between us
me: not that its a bad thing, mind you
Manatee: No it isn’t a bad thing. You are right. I am not strong enough for you.
There were not concessions that needed to be made…what was needed was for me to be completely a different person
me: hahaha
Manatee: And in the end I was lacking. I couldn’t burn the bridges between every one I cared about for you
me: stop the spin
Manatee: There is no spin
me: its funny how a little time and a lot of thinking can cloud your judgment
i asked you to burn every bridge! hillarious! ...look Manatee, you just came to terms with lying to me… stop lying to yourself! really! you should know by now that there is no emo reaction from me here… be happy but be honest
Manatee: You didn’t ask it. but there was no fixing at that point
me: i wonder if you are falling in the “say it till its true” trap here
Manatee: Ryan…There was a time when you looked at me and said that you didn’t think you were treating me right…
we were in your car
you were taking me home.
me: you dont have to convince me… REALLY! once i found out you were a liar, there was no convincing necessary.
Manatee: I am not a liar
me: not that that changes anything, im still ur friend
speaking of friends… DepressedGuy quit the group. im sure you know
haha
Manatee: He emailed me happy birthday…out of the blue, and said that he didn’t know how much longer he would be gaming
I don’t know why he would have done that though
me: your response
?
Manatee: I politely thanked him
me: how quickly you forget
Manatee: and said that I was sorry that I hadn’t been to game
me: no wonder he bailed on the group
Manatee: It has nothing to do with me…and if it does I didn’t know about it.
I haven’t spoken with him since that email.
he shouldn’t bail on the group on account of me…it doesn’t make any sense
me: but you dont lie, right? haha
Manatee: not at all
I never lied to you about that
I was afraid that you would take some sort of affront out on him for wishing me happy birthday so I didn’t say anything
me: u promised you would leave them alone and u responded
that irritates me
me: nice Manatee
Manatee: I can’t think why you are so irritated.
me: bc u lied again
Manatee: I never said that I promised. I said I would go on hiatus, but the words I promise never crossed my lips
me: thats fine
ill take care of it
next subject please
Manatee: God…you are so cold…
me: not for you, and we all know thats all that matters
cold? how so?
Manatee: Ryan, you only look out for yourself…there was only one time you really inconvenienced yourself on my behalf…ONE time.
You would never have stopped to give me a minute if it wasn’t on your way to someone else.
Manatee: And are working on your behest
This is where we are fundimentally different. I am not the one who only cares for myself.
You always have an agenda, and that is what you care about.
If I had been strong enough to be all in and not walk…you would have cheated on me at some point, and I would never have known until it was too late.
me: hahaha… cheated? who has the history of dishonesty? ive NEVER lied to you
Manatee: You have.
me: once about the leg
hahaha
Manatee: You said you werent
physical with vegan girl right before you said that you kissed her
spin the definition all you want
And I did love you
I stopped loving you before I realized it…my bad
There are no trades with you
You are going to do what you do, and spin what you spin
do whatever you want.
me: i gave you a test, an exit, and happiness
im not DOING anything
Manatee: What did I cost you…a couple casual fucks
God Ryan. I don’t believe you liked me. If you did you would have just been with me
There would have been no manipulation or tests
It is unnatural. and you have a whole new line up of women now
me: i do?
Manatee: Florida chick…and I am sure by now you have some new playthings
me: been snooping?
Manatee: No, you told me about florida
and I don’t know who else you have lined up. I know you are playing with Pegleg again, but you told me that
I don’t have time to snoop into your drama
me: im not hurting for attention, if thats what you are asking, btw
Manatee: I don’t understand why you would want me to be your friend. And for that to be ok, not to be DepressedGuy’s
me: im guessing that you dont want to be involved with “satan” as your fam calls me
so say it, its no big to me. not what i want but im good either way.
Manatee: Yes and no
Or no and yes
me: right
that makes sense
Manatee: I am glad you are happy, and that it didn’t hurt you. I am sorry that you think I am a liar, and that I dissappointed you.
me: how is that fair?
I am not poisoning your friends
me: and its not at all what i thought we agreed to
Manatee: I don’t talk to your friends about you or regarding you
and I barely talk to them
me: and barely is too much, for now. especially considering the last proposal
Manatee: I am not negotiating anything.
What are we negotiating?
This isn’t a custody battle
I am not trying to steal your friends
me: if you want out clean, give me clean… u live your life, and give me the absence from mine that will not make me think i have to mitigate damage you may have done
Manatee: what the hell are you talking about
You are fucking insane
DAMAGE
Really?
me: You quite plainly know that I am not insane. “The intellect is not a serious thing, and never has been. It is an instrument on which one plays, that is all.” -Wilde
Manatee: you really think I caused damage
me: not major damage, but some.
Manatee: You are a SOCIOPATH
me: everything leaves its marks
Manatee: how did I create damage
me: no mater how soft or subtle
Manatee: Because someone wants to be my friend?
That is damaging?
Because I am so sure I am going to ever interfere with you and your agendas
It makes me so angry that you think I am so untrustworthy
me: No. youre reading way too much into this
Manatee: I don’t understand what you are talking about with your damage
me: indulge me the damage i do, just for my conscience’s sake
Manatee: The people that I love will not tolerate your presence.
And some of them will not tolerate my involvement wiht you
in any capacity
me: even knowing that we are not in any intimate capacity?
Manatee: Correct
me: and you havent spoken on this?
Manatee: I have advised them that there is no continued risk to me emotionally, and that you would like to be friends…and they are not tolerant of this. I have reiterated that you have always followed through on what you have said you would do.
They do not trust you, and will not tolerate you.
And they cannot understand my tolerance of any part of the last 6 months.
me: and, I’m the sociopath? (sorry, had to slip one in)
Manatee: Ryan. You are self admittedly a sociopath
me: ...according to a facebook quiz
haha
i worked hard to make you comfortable with friendship
...pretty much all march, in fact.
i admire my work, but even hitting the target, i missed the mark