A question about this goal: Anyone out there want to correspond about this? September 14th, 2006 04:23
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Hi folk (ie. anyone reading this)!
I’ve been reading Pickaxe (and will continue to do so) but now I’ve pick(hehe)ed up the Agile Rails book & even before I’m that far into it I’m thinking about that 1st app…
Is it true that 43things is a Rails app? And blogger?
Reading is good but doing is always better. You’ll learn a lot faster when you will try to create your very own first application.
43things, 43people and lot of blogs using Typo and Mephisto are powered by Rails. So is for example Shopify.
Blogger on the other hand uses own software, Perl based AFAIK.
Keith Pitty is aiming to be in bed by 11 pm tonight
Yes, I agree with the advice that you should try Rails to learn it well. I found the book invaluable, especially when I was developing my first app.
Give it a go!
The subject here is Learn Ruby. Rails is a Ruby framework, but learning Rails does not necessarily mean you have learned Ruby. If Rails is your real focus, I would recommend Ruby for Rails to get a good understanding of both (at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Ruby-Rails-Techniques-Developers/dp/1932394699/sr=8-1/qid=1158246729/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-5603787-9982251?ie=UTF8&s=books).
Feel free to ask for help. I agree about Rails – it’s the killer framework – but don’t make the mistake of thinking you can be an efficient Rails developer without understanding Ruby. Read the Pickaxe first.
I found a short tutorial on an IBM site that had an example for the 43things website. It was a test of echo. Do you know this action (?)
Hi there,
It is most important to actually create and use both Ruby and Rails. The problems you’ll come up with are idiosyncratic, and you won’t know how to handle them until you’ve gotten some experience under your belt. (For the most part.)
Some other really good resources for getting help include the IRC channel on irc.freenode.net #rubyonrails or #ruby-lang (there are folks out there just waiting to help… just post the appropriate question in the appropriate channel). Also, the mailing lists are a great resource, too, and you can get hooked up to them from the http://ruby-lang.org/ website.
Also, there’s technoweenie’s RailsWeenie located at http://rails.techno-weenie.com/. People get points for helping each other out. Plus, the tips and tricks that are shared on there really are top-quality.
Hope that helps some,
M.T.
For understanding ruby itself, I highly recommend this:
http://poignantguide.net/ruby/
For rails itself, The Agile 2nd edition is great, and the Rails Recipes book is invaluable. Better to have a project in mind and spend a couple of weeks hacking though. Just use the books and forums to answer your inevitable snags.
Feel free to ask. Before you get into Rails, be familiar with Ruby. I would recommend Ruby for Rails book.
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