become a monk

i like how the are all relaxed all the time.

I have been researching what it takes to become a monk at a monastery and have already visited Our Lady of the Holy Spirit Monastery in Conyers, GA. Next will visit a monastery in Berryville, VA followed by Gethsemani in KY, a eastern orthodox one in AZ only because some of them practice Hesychasm which I happen to do as well, although, I don’t do the Jesus prayer, I use a latin phrase “agla Dominus adjutor meus”. I also want to check out this really cool monastery in NM. The monastery in KY, takes people up to 55 yrs of age, although almost all of them will make exceptions for really old dudes, because quite frankly not many folks are becoming monks. But it is a long drawn out process.

The group I was with was pretty pathetic, though. I think the monastic life seems to attract lost souls. There was one dude who had tried to commit suicide (but obviously not very well), he was the youngest at 28. A few were recovering drug addicts, alcoholics (one had liver disease and would not be allowed to join until he got a liver transplant), mid-life crisis types, lonely old gay guys (apparently, as long as you give it up some will allow you to join, others not), guys who tried to be monks or priests but couldn’t hack it and had dropped out only to find they couldn’t hack the real world either. I was there for the spiritual journey and pretty much bucked the daily monastic routine preferring to connect with God thru my daily hikes into nature and tended to pray in their Cathedral at odd hours of the day and night. But there was no way I was going to wake up at 4am to pray! That would take some getting used to, everyone else did as they thought they were expected to do, all trying to brown nose the monks there. Silly, actually.

My research has also uncovered various scandals at monasteries around the US and the world. For example, the monastery at Gethsemani where Thomas Merton lived had tried to establish a school for young boys in the 40’s only to have it shut down due to a sex abuse scandal. There are other stories of monks raping nuns and having illegitimate children. Another disappointment is their so called industries, what they do to earn money and be self-sufficient. It seems they do a fair amount of misleading marketing. The monastery I visited supposedly made their own fudge but during my walks off-road, I found a dump (actually many dumping sites, they were terrible stewards of nature) with boxes of commercial fudge mixes. I imagine that a commercial company supplies many monasteries claiming to make their own secret recipe or such nonsense. But at this particular monastery I also found dumps with tons of jugs of wine, beer cans, and other forbidden food items. I can just see monks in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s going thru drinking and eating binges because they just couldn’t hack the isolation from the rest of society or the strict vegetarian diets. It’s a tough life, they even hint at it during the vocational retreat. But they don’t show you the bad side. It’s there to discover, if you decide to look.

The funny thing is that in the Rule of Benedict, which they follow, it states not to trust visitors. And, man, let me tell you, they were keeping an eye on my little off-road adventures. I almost got busted a few times in places I am sure they would not have liked me to be but I always seemed to just escape getting caught with my hand in the “proverbial” cookie jar.

I have just come back from a retreat at the Cistercian Abbey in Sparta, WI (Springbank). Simple straight forward faith and liturgy ( a lot in Latin). Check out www.Monksonline.org

And I am chasing dreams that are not real I decide this over and over. I want to just do it. Become a monk. Cut my afro. And live a peaceful life.

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From a variety of sources I’ve come to realize that to some extent monasticism is more of a matter of the heart than officially joining an order where one could simply go through the motions devoid of true religion. Or as I read on the Prayer Foundation Knights of Prayer site which is a bit of an online monastary is that “the idea of monks is a historical Christian symbol and metaphor for both a life of prayer, and a life of dedication to the Lord.” The Knights of Prayer, a monastic order of lay monks is also describes itself as giving formal recognition to people who are already monks in their hearts. Yet the funny thing is that my friend Todd Schoonover actually came to this conclusion over a month ago in his birthday blessing to me which included the line “May the borders between secular and sacred be non-existent in your life, so that you realize you are a monk already.” As I now believe that this goal falls into my broader goal of live with no boundaries between the sacred and the secular as striving to live a complete Christian life is the true mark of a monk of the heart.

I’ve loved the idea of becomeing a monk since i was a small boy and i still do now. But lately im thinking if they will just accept anyone or what requirements to become a monk.

I am thinking of becoming a monk. Have lost all interest in life and just wanna go somewhere where I am not known by anyone and just live in like a tiny room, praying to God that I never live again, not even eternal life or anything like that. But like I know, you still have to be active in community even as a monk and I don’t really like it. Is there some possibility I can become a monk, like a hermit or something like that, with no social contact whatsoever?

The thought of leaving all of the material, superficial, irrelevant tasks and events I participate in is very liberating to me. If I could have a life where there are no NY straphangers climbing over my head and breathing and sneezing all over my neck just to grasp a germ infested pole, no 9-5, no college classes and no routines. Maybe the last part about routines would still exist if I was a monk but I would be ok with it. I mean as long as I get to meditate daily, study metaphysics and secret teachings, while defying all of the doubts that my current world is built around (like the rule that I am committing a run on sentence right now) and hear no reporters repeating nonsense about corny celebrities, with their corny extravagant lifestyles or lies about a war and fatalities in numbers that sounds like a score board. A life where I can do nothing but focus on the universe, learn to travel through infinite space and different dimensions, learn to focus on consciousness and immortality (death is only a transformation). Maybe IF I could just get a second of peace I can perhaps become a beacon of light to the world. Help people to wake up and stop fearing death, people and rejection. I just want to be surrounded by free thinkers, beings who know infinite love is the only truth and everything else is an illusion, I am only 21 (human years) but I see it and its right here, now and around us. We can stop waiting and running around in circles and just be…just be what we want to be…peaceful…happy…responsible….oh and vegetarian.

Peace n Luv

Everything I read about monasticism speaks to me, everything about the life appeals to me. I think it’s the only dream I have that I really feel good and right about putting my faith and hope in. I think the oddest thing about this goal is that it’s something that few people understand. Most of my friends and aquaintences at work don’t understand, old friends think it’s funny, people seem to be more inclined to be skeptical or warn against it rather than understand and support the decision. It’s almost become a secret; I might mention it to people at Church but I’m socializing less at Church which has really been the only place where I ever find anyone who understands the goal; even people at Church are full of warnings and raised eyebrows. Seems to me that people are so quick to shoot down the idea; I don’t know why – so I keep it to myself, sharing it only in my prayers.

God help me; I want to be a monk more than anything else in the whole world.